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  • #31
    I get it Bernard.
    Even cellular activity is very busy. It's still motor behavior, even though it is below a focal length that we can see with our naked eyes.
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    • #32
      In this case, ions/atoms are the key of life.
      BTW, is it possible to have an other way to move things without atomic forces? Just no. :thumbs_up
      Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
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      • #33
        And likely there could be no life, no movement atomically within life if not for water inside the cells, and the inherent motion of it. (Brownian motion).

        I'm not thinking nerve cells so much here, just cells in general.
        Diane
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        @somasimple

        "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

        “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

        “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

        "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

        "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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        • #34
          Here is some important views:
          The newtown pendulum is well known but uses inert balls.
          But this pendulum has a limit! The motion ends quickly!
          newton's pendulum

          http://www.myphysicslab.com/pendulum1.html
          The magnetic one shows that attraction repulsion complicates the motion. The motion has a a long lasting but it works randomly.
          Magnetic pendulum

          Nature, in axons, use a magnetic ordered pendulum. ( I will explain it later).

          You may see the movies on these sites before.
          Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
          We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

          Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
          If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
          bernard

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          • #35
            15/ ideal transmission doesn't exist on Earth.

            [flash]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic17.swf[/flash]

            http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic17.swf

            If we consider a non charged collision because there is no friction and no deceleration, the force is totally transmitted.

            But it doesn't exist such circumstances on Earth.
            Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
            We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

            Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
            If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
            bernard

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            • #36
              16/ Normal transmission is stopped.

              [flash]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic18.swf[/flash]

              http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic18.swf

              Here is the common situation. It works but lasts quickly!
              It is a first reason why Nature used another mean than inert balls (but ions).
              Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
              We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

              Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
              If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
              bernard

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              • #37
                17/ Perfect alignment is impossible.

                [flash]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic19.swf[/flash]

                http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic19.swf

                Here is amore common situation. It works but lasts quickly!
                It is impossible that the continuity may be enabled on such distance. There is gaps between some balls and thus message transmission will always fail. (Do not forget that an axon contains milions and millions of ions.)

                Nature used an active and elegant ionic mechanism.
                Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
                We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

                Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
                If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
                bernard

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                • #38
                  18/ Inert balls are inefficient.

                  [flash]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic20.swf[/flash]

                  http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic20.swf

                  The same as previous that shows on the short distance the problem encountered with inert balls.
                  Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
                  We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

                  Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
                  If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
                  bernard

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                  • #39
                    19/ Another good reason for inefficiency...

                    [flash]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic21.swf[/flash]

                    http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic21.swf

                    Newton called it : GRAVITATION.
                    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
                    We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

                    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
                    If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
                    bernard

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                    • #40
                      20/ Ions ignore Newton...

                      [flash]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic22.swf[/flash]

                      http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic22.swf

                      If we put some ions and create an imbalance (important) between internal and external side of a vat/cell/axon... thus we get a re-arrangement of ions that counter-balance the gravitation effect.

                      It tightens the membrane!!! It is why the plants have a greater imbalance of ions and are tighter than us.
                      Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
                      We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

                      Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
                      If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
                      bernard

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                      • #41
                        21/ Newton's Pendulum revisited...

                        [flash]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic23.swf[/flash]

                        http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic23.swf

                        If we try to make a netwon's pendulum with charged balls, equilibrilium is not the same. And, it is not sure that it will work better than the original?

                        But Nature uses it and it works!!!
                        Last edited by bernard; 27-10-2005, 04:51 PM.
                        Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
                        We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

                        Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
                        If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
                        bernard

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                        • #42
                          22/ Where Nature seems to fail...

                          [flash]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic24.swf[/flash]

                          http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/atomic24.swf

                          As I said it, such pendulum doesn't work very well since charges resist and oppose their forces to the motion. Weird, but as I told us, Natures made it!
                          Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
                          We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

                          Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
                          If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
                          bernard

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                          • #43
                            Here is three ions attracted by a single opposite one:
                            [FLASH500]http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/three_forces.swf[/FLASH500]

                            http://www.somasimple.com/flash_anims/three_forces.swf
                            Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
                            We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

                            Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
                            If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
                            bernard

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