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  • Science-Based Medicine blog

    SBM blog has been up for a year. I've referred to it many times and have chased down many of its links, borrowed certain ideas from it like "tooth fairy science" (thank you Harriet Hall :thumbs_up).

    Today's post is by Steven Novella, a sum-up of Year 1, A Year of Science-Based Medicine. In it he makes this statement:
    "I coined the term science-based medicine because I wanted our blog to be about what we are for, not what we are against. We advocate for a univsersal science-based standard of care in medicine. The term is also a play on evidence-based medicine, which almost gets it right but fails to properly consider prior plausibility in its evaluations."
    I think we could paraphrase this slightly and it would fit Somasimple perfectly. This site is about what we are for, although it's also what we are against and why. As a PT site it has to be relentlessly explicit, because the whole profession has been way too confusing/confused all along and is in danger of getting worse instead of better if left entirely on its own.

    I particularly like the second part. I think I'll use that as a quote in my signature line. :thumbs_up
    Diane
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    "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

    “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

    “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

    "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

    "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

  • #2
    Mark Crislip has blogged about treatment of chronic pain in AARP and Alternative Medicine on SBM today. It's an interesting article. He's complimentary to physical therapy but takes an outcomes-only approach to evidence and seems to misunderstand placebo.
    Eric Matheson, PT

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    • #3
      Originally posted by EricM View Post
      He's complimentary to physical therapy but takes an outcomes-only approach to evidence and seems to misunderstand placebo.
      Great summary, Eric. I've dealt a lot with the outcomes-only mentality, and I find myself losing patience for these arguments when they present themselves. There's more of this in our future, so I probably need to have a healthier attitude about it. It just strikes me as so intellectually lazy, that it's hard.
      Jason Silvernail DPT, DSc, FAAOMPT
      Board-Certified in Orthopedic Physical Therapy
      Fellowship-Trained in Orthopedic Manual Therapy

      Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist


      The views expressed in this entry are those of the author alone and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense, or the US Government.

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      • #4
        Here is a new thread by Steven Novella on placebo: The rise of placebo medicine.

        It lays out the issues carefully. The main gist seems to be about how reframing placebo would lead to bad science. The CAM studies such as the acupuncture study that showed that fake acupuncture was just as good as real, therefore "acupuncture works", are pointed out as examples. There seems to be intense disquiet as always. A comment by "twaza"(4th one in) says:
        "There is another issue that is seldom noticed in these discussions. Science-based medicine has paid little attention to understanding the components of the placebo effect, and provides little guidance on how evidence-based practitioners can exploit these effects in their practice. Until it does this, CAMsters will have a competitive advantage."
        Exacto, IMO.
        Diane
        www.dermoneuromodulation.com
        SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
        HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
        Neurotonics PT Teamblog
        Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
        Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
        @PainPhysiosCan
        WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
        @WCPTPTPN
        Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

        @dfjpt
        SomaSimple on Facebook
        @somasimple

        "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

        “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

        “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

        "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

        "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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        • #5
          I'm not so sure that I can agree with this part of your quote, Diane 'Science-based medicine has paid little attention to understanding the components of the placebo effect, and provides little guidance on how evidence-based practitioners can exploit these effects in their practice'

          There is a LOT of research being undertaken with regard to placebo and meaning response - see Dan Moerman, Benedetti and Colloca et al. At least in terms of pain management, we are beginning to understand so much more about the whole thing that I think we're being much wiser about it than previously.
          I take a module on placebo in the postgrad papers I teach, and this module always raises so much discussion - about ethics, about assumptions (eg if the person responds to placebo then their pain 'must' be imaginary or psychological!), about what to do if you've carried out a treatment in good faith, had good results - but then find out the RCT's demonstrate little or no effect discernable from placebo.

          Certain aspects of 'meaning response' can and are clearly identified: empathy, taking time to listen, generating a positive expectancy, patient beliefs, the cultural context of the health interaction, but without a doubt: there is much more to learn.

          For good reading on placebo - apart from Dan Moerman's 'Meaning response' approach, it's worthwhile looking at anything written by Benedetti and Colloca, their work is empirical science carried out to clearly identify some of the biological mechanisms for responses to placebo. Current thinking seems to be that the body uses biological systems to achieve the result but the interaction between the health care provider and patient beliefs/learning/culture etc influence the activation of these systems.
          It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~Aristotle
          Healthskills

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          • #6
            Bronnie, I would urge you to go and say so on the blog. The person who made the comment was 'twaza'. I'm sure they'd be interested.
            Diane
            www.dermoneuromodulation.com
            SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
            HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
            Neurotonics PT Teamblog
            Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
            Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
            @PainPhysiosCan
            WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
            @WCPTPTPN
            Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

            @dfjpt
            SomaSimple on Facebook
            @somasimple

            "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

            “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

            “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

            "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

            "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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            • #7
              Neck Manipulation: Risk vs. Benefit

              New blogpost up on neck manipulation by Sam Homola, Neck Manipulation: Risk vs. Benefit.

              Progress... progress....
              Diane
              www.dermoneuromodulation.com
              SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
              HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
              Neurotonics PT Teamblog
              Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
              Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
              @PainPhysiosCan
              WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
              @WCPTPTPN
              Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

              @dfjpt
              SomaSimple on Facebook
              @somasimple

              "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

              “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

              “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

              "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

              "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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              • #8
                Acupuncture

                Check out the latest blogpost, Oriental Medicine or Medical Orientalism?, by Ben Kavoussi, on ScienceBased Medicine. :clap2:
                Diane
                www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                @PainPhysiosCan
                WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                @WCPTPTPN
                Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                @dfjpt
                SomaSimple on Facebook
                @somasimple

                "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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