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  • CT You ain't nothing but a soma simpleton

    Erson shows his maturity level on his blog today referring to someone here as a soma simpleton.

    I read his blog and find him to be involved and energetic which is more than I can say for a great number of clinicians I know. As such, I respect that enthusiasm. Do I disagree with him quite a bit? of course I do but not always. It's a shame a smart guy like that seems incapable of involved discussion that does not 100% agree with him. He seems to get angry when people ask him hard questions...or any questions for that matter.

    I'm surprised that he would stoop to name calling though. :thumbs_do
    Last edited by proud; 17-09-2013, 02:15 AM.

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    Oh and catch the C-spine manipulation video at the end of the entry. It seems that poor girls instinctive movement was to get up and run away as fast as possible after that! She practically jumped off that chair to get away.

    I suppose next might be a sharp jab with a needle and a gouging with a metal tool to finish her off....:teeth:

    And we wonder why we have an epidemic of pain. Geesh.

    Such a bizarre clip that one.

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    • #3
      Erson's blog was one of the first things I found that really challenged me to think critically early on in my education. While I don't agree with everything he writes, I respect his desire to grow as a clinician and the resources he provides through his website.

      Unfortunately, he blocked me on twitter because I shared one of Barrett's essays and participate in the discussions here at Soma Simple. Disappointing, to say the least.
      Kenneth Venere PT, DPT
      @kvenere
      Physiological

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      • #4
        I think Erson's persona and tendency to practice as he does has been a great gift to us.
        Barrett L. Dorko

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        • #5
          Disappointed. Not surprised.

          Would the simpleton in question care to share what made them a "jerk"?

          Respectfully,
          Keith
          Blog: Keith's Korner
          Twitter: @18mmPT

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          • #6
            "Soma simpleton"? That's not even very clever.

            I'm not sure why this guy asking if Dr. E, DPT is allowed to teach Mulligan techniques makes him a "jerk". He seems kinda thin-skinned to me.

            This quote speaks to Dr. E, DPT's personality:
            Rocabado's co-workers, they told me he wanted to visit me but was out of the country!
            Still flabbergasted he remembers me from taking his courses 8 years ago!
            He assumes that because Rocabado's co-workers' telling him that Rocabado remembers him from 8 years ago means that he actually does remember him.

            Hell, he might remember Dr. E, DPT for being the "jerk" who asked about using tools to gouge patient's faces.
            John Ware, PT
            Fellow of the American Academy of Orthopedic Manual Physical Therapists
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            be carried on to success.” -The Analects of Confucius, Book 13, Verse 3

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            • #7
              Hi Ken!

              Unfortunately, he blocked me on twitter because I shared one of Barrett's essays and participate in the discussions here at Soma Simple. Disappointing, to say the least
              I hope that Erson isn't coming across as a whoreson--which in Shakespeare's day was a contemptible or detestable person.

              In Hamlet, the gravedigger, holding up the skull of Yorick (King Hamlet's jester) describes him as a "whoreson mad fellow."

              Sometimes, that description seems as if it could apply to many folks in the physical therapy world.

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              • #8
                (Big) Ken,

                I think you're quoting Shakespeare is just an immature reaction to being among the "simpletons".
                John Ware, PT
                Fellow of the American Academy of Orthopedic Manual Physical Therapists
                "Nothing can bring a man peace but the triumph of principles." -R.W. Emerson
                “If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot
                be carried on to success.” -The Analects of Confucius, Book 13, Verse 3

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                • #9
                  Hi John!
                  I think you're quoting Shakespeare is just an immature reaction to being among the "simpletons".
                  :clap1:
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by venerek View Post
                    Unfortunately, he blocked me on twitter because I shared one of Barrett's essays and participate in the discussions here at Soma Simple. Disappointing, to say the least.
                    I have never been one to encourage banning someone from something just because they associate with or are of a different crowd. That does seem disappointing.


                    Since I don't recall reading anything from this Dr. E before, I decided to read this post from his blog that was mentioned.

                    Is this status quo for how PT's learn to manipulate? When I was in DC school we spent at least a year just learning how to set up and finesse hand position. No cavitation or goal of joint movement involved. Are these people actually trying to learn manipulation in a week-end workshop, or am I getting that wrong? This is a bit disconcerting to say the least and quite agressive to boot.

                    Also, may I ask what a Mulligan Concept is? Thanks in advance.
                    C.O. ( gender: ) - LMT, BS(Anatomy), DC
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Curious One View Post
                      Is this status quo for how PT's learn to manipulate? When I was in DC school we spent at least a year just learning how to set up and finesse hand position. No cavitation or goal of joint movement involved. Are these people actually trying to learn manipulation in a week-end workshop, or am I getting that wrong? This is a bit disconcerting to say the least and quite agressive to boot.
                      Good grief, why would a hand position take a year to learn??

                      What is chiro? Karate training or something? Oh yeah, it probably is.. I forgot.
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                      • #12
                        Curious One

                        When I was in physical therapy school over 10 years ago, we learned two thoracic spine thrust techniques. I learned various other high velocity thrust techniques during a year long Maitland Program. Before we would attempt a thrust, we would practice the technique over and over. I became comfortable only when the practice of the technique led to cavitation because the "set up and manual contact was right". I know of 2 other educators who offer these type of courses.

                        I do get many fliers in the mail with weekend courses that teach these techniques in 2 to 4 days. There isn't a lot of regulation with continuing education so your comment: "This is a bit disconcerting to say the least and quite agressive to boot" fits perfectly.

                        Mulligan has a website here. Brian Mulligan created concepts of mobilization with movements instead of "passive" mobilizations. Some of his techniques utilize mobilization belts, joint glides, slides and etc that do not necessary follow "rules" of osteokinematics or arthrokinematics that is typically taught in PT school.

                        Rex
                        Rex Fujiwara, MPT,OCS
                        Physical Therapist
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                        • #13
                          If Dr. E's goal is to cavitate the cervicothoracic junction, I know if at least 2 other ways to do it without acting like you're ripping the patient's head off. My question is...... Why? Why is this being taught? What is the goal? How do you measure the goal? Why is this so popular in the PT world and yet left and right, PTs ridicule DCs for doing it?

                          I like how Dr. E states that he's only going to add a little rotation into the set up then produces axial distraction and torque (rotation), in the thrusting mechanics. All he wuld have to do is add a little extension to the set-up and he'd have a more effective way of causing a VBA.

                          Hell, I should put together a class about how to pop joints, I could even teach people how to do it in ways that are fairly comfortable for both parties involved. It seems like a very theatrical way to produce a novel stimulus.
                          Tim Irving DC, MS, LMT

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                          • #14
                            Hey guys, you're not kind with this little boy.
                            He seems (see picture) yet immature and 6 years old.
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                            Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
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                            • #15
                              When I was a teenager in the '70s describing someone,or their opinions as plastic was very insulting.

                              I like to think that I would take it as a compliment now,but I cringe as I write at the memory of being compared to mass produced high density polyethylene.
                              Jo Bowyer
                              Chartered Physiotherapist Registered Osteopath.
                              "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,there is a field. I'll meet you there." Rumi

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