I never heard of this guy and after being bored reading the first lines of his blog I thought
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"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
-- Albert Einstein
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Now I'm much more of a software (or actually wetware) progrkammer.
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When I was a teenager in the '70s describing someone,or their opinions as plastic was very insulting.
I like to think that I would take it as a compliment now,but I cringe as I write at the memory of being compared to mass produced high density polyethylene.
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Hey guys, you're not kind with this little boy.
He seems (see picture) yet immature and 6 years old.Attached Files
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If Dr. E's goal is to cavitate the cervicothoracic junction, I know if at least 2 other ways to do it without acting like you're ripping the patient's head off. My question is...... Why? Why is this being taught? What is the goal? How do you measure the goal? Why is this so popular in the PT world and yet left and right, PTs ridicule DCs for doing it?
I like how Dr. E states that he's only going to add a little rotation into the set up then produces axial distraction and torque (rotation), in the thrusting mechanics. All he wuld have to do is add a little extension to the set-up and he'd have a more effective way of causing a VBA.
Hell, I should put together a class about how to pop joints, I could even teach people how to do it in ways that are fairly comfortable for both parties involved. It seems like a very theatrical way to produce a novel stimulus.
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Curious One
When I was in physical therapy school over 10 years ago, we learned two thoracic spine thrust techniques. I learned various other high velocity thrust techniques during a year long Maitland Program. Before we would attempt a thrust, we would practice the technique over and over. I became comfortable only when the practice of the technique led to cavitation because the "set up and manual contact was right". I know of 2 other educators who offer these type of courses.
I do get many fliers in the mail with weekend courses that teach these techniques in 2 to 4 days. There isn't a lot of regulation with continuing education so your comment: "This is a bit disconcerting to say the least and quite agressive to boot" fits perfectly.
Mulligan has a website here. Brian Mulligan created concepts of mobilization with movements instead of "passive" mobilizations. Some of his techniques utilize mobilization belts, joint glides, slides and etc that do not necessary follow "rules" of osteokinematics or arthrokinematics that is typically taught in PT school.
Rex
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Originally posted by Curious One View PostIs this status quo for how PT's learn to manipulate? When I was in DC school we spent at least a year just learning how to set up and finesse hand position. No cavitation or goal of joint movement involved. Are these people actually trying to learn manipulation in a week-end workshop, or am I getting that wrong? This is a bit disconcerting to say the least and quite agressive to boot.
What is chiro? Karate training or something? Oh yeah, it probably is.. I forgot.
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Originally posted by venerek View PostUnfortunately, he blocked me on twitter because I shared one of Barrett's essays and participate in the discussions here at Soma Simple. Disappointing, to say the least.
Since I don't recall reading anything from this Dr. E before, I decided to read this post from his blog that was mentioned.
Is this status quo for how PT's learn to manipulate? When I was in DC school we spent at least a year just learning how to set up and finesse hand position. No cavitation or goal of joint movement involved. Are these people actually trying to learn manipulation in a week-end workshop, or am I getting that wrong? This is a bit disconcerting to say the least and quite agressive to boot.
Also, may I ask what a Mulligan Concept is? Thanks in advance.
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Hi John!
I think you're quoting Shakespeare is just an immature reaction to being among the "simpletons".Attached Files
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(Big) Ken,
I think you're quoting Shakespeare is just an immature reaction to being among the "simpletons".
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Hi Ken!
Unfortunately, he blocked me on twitter because I shared one of Barrett's essays and participate in the discussions here at Soma Simple. Disappointing, to say the least
In Hamlet, the gravedigger, holding up the skull of Yorick (King Hamlet's jester) describes him as a "whoreson mad fellow."
Sometimes, that description seems as if it could apply to many folks in the physical therapy world.
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"Soma simpleton"? That's not even very clever.
I'm not sure why this guy asking if Dr. E, DPT is allowed to teach Mulligan techniques makes him a "jerk". He seems kinda thin-skinned to me.
This quote speaks to Dr. E, DPT's personality:
Rocabado's co-workers, they told me he wanted to visit me but was out of the country!
Still flabbergasted he remembers me from taking his courses 8 years ago!
Hell, he might remember Dr. E, DPT for being the "jerk" who asked about using tools to gouge patient's faces.
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Disappointed. Not surprised.
Would the simpleton in question care to share what made them a "jerk"?
Respectfully,
Keith
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I think Erson's persona and tendency to practice as he does has been a great gift to us.
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