You ain't nothing but a soma simpleton

[amacs]

Now I'm much more of a software (or actually wetware) progrkammer.

Amen to that

[Dan84]

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."

-- Albert Einstein

[marcel]

I never heard of this guy and after being bored reading the first lines of his blog I thought
Boring.

[John W]

He seems to be a standard bearer for the GYPSY generation.

The unhappiness part might explain the willingness to rip people's head off. :angel:

[amacs]

I would have thought Erson was above this kind of crass comment. It does nothing for a collegial approach discussion and learning. I would expect that we here know better and would not resort to similar even if provoked.

Just sayin...

ANdy

[Evanthis Raftopoulos]

What I see is a mentality of "others do not matter" and then pretending to be helpful to the profession. I'm sure that the "jerk" is an honest person asking questions. What I also see is a desperate attempt for self elevation at the expense of others. Disappointing but not uncommon.

[amacs]

He seems to be a standard bearer for the GYPSY generation.

The unhappiness part might explain the willingness to rip people's head off. :angel:

Great find John. Wonderfully described - made me stand back and think about Things a bit, although I am not of this generation.

Thanks for posting

ANdy

[John W]

ANdy,
I hope you're not making a moral equivalency between what's been said here about Dr. E, DPT's behavior and Dr. E, DPT's act of unprofessionalism and immaturity. I'm still not even sure if the person he called a "jerk" for asking an apparently legitimate question even participates here on SomaSimple.

If we can't point out the ridiculous by being a little ridiculous, then it seem all humor is lost, and worse, bullies get away with bullying.

[Curious One]

Good grief, why would a hand position take a year to learn??

It would have been more precise to say multiple ways to use the hands and body over three, 3 credit hour courses, over the span of one year plus any outside of class practice before seeking to cavitate.

As someone who has never been to a PT to see how they perform manipulation, or aware of how their training goes, I was responding with my knowledge base and asking to be made aware of the differences. And, please do not assume that my response is to promote chiropractic. It is merely to respond to your question.

I think it's like most things with the body - much can be learned in weekend class or reading a bit here and there over the internet. But, when able to work with the teacher/mentor regularly over the course of a year (or spend hours over the course of a year reading through the bowels of a forum such as this), proficiency and the ability to be more effective with even more subtle work ensues.

[amacs]

ANdy,
I hope you're not making a moral equivalency between what's been said here about Dr. E, DPT's behaviour and Dr. E, DPT's act of unprofessionalism and immaturity. I'm still not even sure if the person he called a "jerk" for asking an apparently legitimate question even participates here on SomaSimple.

If we can't point out the ridiculous by being a little ridiculous, then it seem all humor is lost, and worse, bullies get away with bullying.

Do you really think I am intending to make an argument of moral equivalency John?

Do not read any more into my post than it says, lets not drift to his level - consider it a plea, maybe.

ANdy

[Jason Silvernail]

I was very disappointed to read that comment as well. I entered a brief comment on his blog post.

[ptguy]

Curious one said:
I think it's like most things with the body - much can be learned in weekend class or reading a bit here and there over the internet. But, when able to work with the teacher/mentor regularly over the course of a year (or spend hours over the course of a year reading through the bowels of a forum such as this), proficiency and the ability to be more effective with even more subtle work ensues.

Many of the posters here would argue that manipulation never needs to be used and the same results can be had from gentler techniques. This stated, for those of us who do manipulate, there is compelling evidence that the skill of the manipulator is not the key to improved outcomes but rather the characteristics of the presenting client in front of you. Childs and Cleland both compared outcomes of novice and expert clinicians manipulating and found no difference in outcomes.

Perhaps what improves with prolonged training with manual therapy is the clinicians confidence and belief in their skill predisposes them to believe they are having superior outcomes. Sometimes this can influence patients to have a greater expectation of improvement - a factor increasingly being recognized in the research as having a great influence on outcome.

[Keith]

I was very disappointed to read that comment as well. I entered a brief comment on his blog post.

His reply:

...Go back to bickering among your forum where all the top posters agree with each other.

Oh well.

Respectfully,
Keith

[proud]

I'd say Erson is a guy who will one day mature a bit and reflect back upon these child like behaviors and regret it.

It's a shame such boundlass energy appears wasted on a fellow who is either extremely immature or worse and less likely to self resolve...an individual with narcissistic personality disorder. (falling back on my first degree here...Psychology).

Either way, I'm willing to bet If he sat across the table from most of the "soma simpleton's" he would find extremely friendly, engaged and intelligent colleagues which he could grow with.

He truly needs to grow up before he ruins his career and reputation as a professional.

[Barrett Dorko]

proud says:

...before he ruins his career and reputation as a professional.

Perhaps it's too late. His characterization of those of us here will be hard for many to forget.

Including me.