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  • VIS DNM videos

    JasonE is putting a lot of effort into documenting DNM, with videos he took last year in San Diego, and the article he wrote for the massage magazine.

    I'm grateful for all his care and attention and technical savvy.

    1. Top of shoulder.

    [YT]LMRDO1c-VaA[/YT]


    2. Posterior leg.

    [YT]VxefDYqXF4A[/YT]
    Diane
    www.dermoneuromodulation.com
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    "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

    “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

    “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

    "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

    "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

  • #2
    Please excuse my ignorance, I was unaware of dycem, I have a red palm print on my face.
    What thickness dycem is best?
    “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” Buckminster Fuller

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    • #3
      Rick, I've got to ask: What possible difference could the thickness of the material make?
      Barrett L. Dorko

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Rick Carter View Post
        Please excuse my ignorance, I was unaware of dycem, I have a red palm print on my face.
        What thickness dycem is best?

        The thinnest available.
        Diane
        www.dermoneuromodulation.com
        SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
        HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
        Neurotonics PT Teamblog
        Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
        Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
        @PainPhysiosCan
        WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
        @WCPTPTPN
        Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

        @dfjpt
        SomaSimple on Facebook
        @somasimple

        "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

        “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

        “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

        "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

        "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Barrett Dorko View Post
          Rick, I've got to ask: What possible difference could the thickness of the material make?
          Since I haven't used it (or seen it) I don't know. But my assumption is that if it is too thick it won't be as pliable and may interfere with contact feedback. If it is too thin it may not last as long and be more subject to tearing. My thinking at this point is for it to be as thin as possible. I don't know what the options are. I may try using TheraBand until I can get some dycem.
          “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” Buckminster Fuller

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          • #6
            It can't possibly tear. It's so tough you could suspend an automobile with the stuff, I'm pretty sure.
            Diane
            www.dermoneuromodulation.com
            SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
            HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
            Neurotonics PT Teamblog
            Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
            Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
            @PainPhysiosCan
            WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
            @WCPTPTPN
            Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

            @dfjpt
            SomaSimple on Facebook
            @somasimple

            "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

            “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

            “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

            "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

            "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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            • #7
              Dycem

              http://www.amazon.com/Dycem-Non-Slip...keywords=dycem
              Nicholas Marki, P.T.

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              • #8
                I called Dycem directly and ordered from them. The original is the thinnest at 1/32" or .6 mm.
                I ordered blue as it must work better because that is what Diane uses in the video.
                I am expecting this to be a wonderful addition to my treatment by being able to provide traction with less pressure as well as being able to better modulate traction and pressure. I am embarrassed that I didn't think of using something like this before, never entered my thought process, or if it did, didn't find a place to roost.
                “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” Buckminster Fuller

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                • #9
                  Don't worry, it never occurred to me until just a couple years ago, when I found myself working in a facility that has an OT, was able to fool around with a couple available pieces, and saw the potential.

                  It works exactly like that - lets you lengthen skin without digging in. Saves your hands. If you have small hands, like mine, lets you get a grip on large heels, and slippery dry skin.
                  Diane
                  www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                  SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                  HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                  Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                  Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                  Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                  @PainPhysiosCan
                  WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                  @WCPTPTPN
                  Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                  @dfjpt
                  SomaSimple on Facebook
                  @somasimple

                  "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                  “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                  “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                  "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                  "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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                  • #10
                    I have collected all the videos so far, into one blogpost.
                    Diane
                    www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                    SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                    HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                    Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                    Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                    Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                    @PainPhysiosCan
                    WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                    @WCPTPTPN
                    Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                    @dfjpt
                    SomaSimple on Facebook
                    @somasimple

                    "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                    “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                    “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                    "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                    "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Diane View Post
                      Don't worry, it never occurred to me until just a couple years ago, when I found myself working in a facility that has an OT, was able to fool around with a couple available pieces, and saw the potential.

                      It works exactly like that - lets you lengthen skin without digging in. Saves your hands. If you have small hands, like mine, lets you get a grip on large heels, and slippery dry skin.

                      I may have asked this somewhere else, but I can't find the thread --- and, I can't recall the answer. How do you clean it (the Dycem) between clients/patients?

                      Thanks so much for being kind enough to put the videos up. I really appreciate being able to see the work. I hope someday there will be an opportunity for me to attend a class.
                      Last edited by Curious One; 11-09-2013, 05:15 AM. Reason: - can't type... brain fog too...
                      C.O. ( gender: ) - LMT, BS(Anatomy), DC
                      Music Fog... pick a song to listen to... you can't go wrong.
                      Need relaxation samples for your office? I have made a Deep Relaxation Massage Music Pandora Station and have others that may also be useful - about 8 massage music stations and about 49 other nifty options.

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                      • #12
                        Soap and water.
                        Diane
                        www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                        SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                        HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                        Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                        Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                        Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                        @PainPhysiosCan
                        WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                        @WCPTPTPN
                        Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                        @dfjpt
                        SomaSimple on Facebook
                        @somasimple

                        "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                        “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                        “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                        "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                        "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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                        • #13
                          Diane,

                          I was away overseas when this thread was posted and I have just woken up to its existence.
                          Excellent stuff. Thank you.

                          I am still hoping to catch up with Bjarne Kragh this month re next April?May course but he's elusive (and busy).

                          Nari

                          PS: Have you developed any DNM techniques for self-application which includes upper limb or back? Tried to teach my husband but he is a strong believer in no pain no gain....ouch!
                          Last edited by nari; 12-09-2013, 12:19 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Pretty hard to reach those zones on oneself, Nari.
                            Diane
                            www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                            SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                            HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                            Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                            Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                            Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                            @PainPhysiosCan
                            WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                            @WCPTPTPN
                            Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                            @dfjpt
                            SomaSimple on Facebook
                            @somasimple

                            "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                            “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                            “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                            "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                            "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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                            • #15
                              Yes, I kinda figured that; even for UL one needs three hands......bother.

                              Nari

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