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    New treatment encounter I

    All about introducing a new topic to a new patient in a new language.
    Diane
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    "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

    “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

    “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

    "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

    "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

  • #2
    thoroughly enjoyed that post, I regret having been quite so flippant in that earlier thread regarding backlash.

    I taste pie

    ANdy
    "Here is Edward Bear coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump, on the back of his head behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming downstairs, but sometimes he feels that there is another way, if only he could stop bumping for a moment and think of it." A.A. Milne

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    • #3
      No worries ANdy.

      Here is Part II.

      Lundborg pictures related to the PNS.
      Last edited by Diane; 18-02-2012, 07:25 AM. Reason: Add link
      Diane
      www.dermoneuromodulation.com
      SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
      HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
      Neurotonics PT Teamblog
      Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
      Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
      @PainPhysiosCan
      WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
      @WCPTPTPN
      Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

      @dfjpt
      SomaSimple on Facebook
      @somasimple

      "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

      “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

      “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

      "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

      "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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      • #4
        Diane, I think this is brilliant.

        Is it possible that there is some way of alluding to prejudicial terms? By that I mean the use of certain words to refer to and thus subtly describe various ethnic groups. Eliminating this in children takes at least a generation.

        If we consider referring to muscles and posture in the ways they commonly are, and then deciding personally not to do that, our influence on the next generation of therapists may have some impact.

        After all, how powerfully misdirecting is it for someone who's supposed to know to say, "It looks like you pulled a muscle" after a brief visial and manually probing exam? A civilian wouldn't know how phenomenally clueless such a statement is. They think this "professional" has special knowledge.We know they haven't read anything about pain in the last 20 years.

        If they look authoritative things just get worse.
        Barrett L. Dorko

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        • #5
          Diane really great information there.

          Barrett, what you said makes sense to me. I personally think that i a big part of the way out. That and when pulled muscle type references are made to just say, hey that's the way my grand mother thought, it 2012 now! In other words, putting that thinking in it place, the past.

          Well maybe that's not true, i bet before we knew so much about 'muscles' at least some treatments were unknowingly nervous system oriented. Yoga, Qi Gong etc certainly have hints. (Well yoga is loosing that, and now developed to a 1950's body view plus fascia)

          Anyway, Anoop's comments about common sense, aside, i still maintain, the basic paradigm is really common sense, it's just been beaten out of us. Flipping the tables is in order!

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          • #6
            New treatment encounter Part III
            Diane
            www.dermoneuromodulation.com
            SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
            HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
            Neurotonics PT Teamblog
            Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
            Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
            @PainPhysiosCan
            WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
            @WCPTPTPN
            Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

            @dfjpt
            SomaSimple on Facebook
            @somasimple

            "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

            “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

            “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

            "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

            "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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            • #7
              New treatment encounter Part IV.
              Diane
              www.dermoneuromodulation.com
              SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
              HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
              Neurotonics PT Teamblog
              Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
              Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
              @PainPhysiosCan
              WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
              @WCPTPTPN
              Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

              @dfjpt
              SomaSimple on Facebook
              @somasimple

              "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

              “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

              “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

              "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

              "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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              • #8
                Really enjoying this series of blogs Diane. Excellent stuff and very thought provoking.

                Thank you

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                • #9
                  You're welcome!
                  Thanks for finding that new image.
                  Diane
                  www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                  SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                  HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                  Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                  Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                  Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                  @PainPhysiosCan
                  WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                  @WCPTPTPN
                  Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                  @dfjpt
                  SomaSimple on Facebook
                  @somasimple

                  "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                  “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                  “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                  "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                  "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Barrett Dorko View Post
                    Diane, I think this is brilliant.
                    Thank you Barrett.

                    Is it possible that there is some way of alluding to prejudicial terms? By that I mean the use of certain words to refer to and thus subtly describe various ethnic groups. Eliminating this in children takes at least a generation.

                    If we consider referring to muscles and posture in the ways they commonly are, and then deciding personally not to do that, our influence on the next generation of therapists may have some impact.

                    After all, how powerfully misdirecting is it for someone who's supposed to know to say, "It looks like you pulled a muscle" after a brief visial and manually probing exam? A civilian wouldn't know how phenomenally clueless such a statement is. They think this "professional" has special knowledge.We know they haven't read anything about pain in the last 20 years.

                    If they look authoritative things just get worse.
                    As far as I'm concerned, Mesoderm-ese and ortho terms in general are full of prejudicial terms and words and concepts and misleads. In fact I'd love to see the entire language of Mesoderm become a dead language. By dead, I mean extinguished completely. But that's just me, probably.

                    I changed some of the pictures in New treatment encounter IV, and New treatment encounter II, got braver with Lundborg, added the new one Adam B showed us, and threw in some slides I built showing the internal regulation system.

                    Here is another I just prepared, from Surgical Disorders of the Peripheral Nerves - quite good IMO.
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by Diane; 19-02-2012, 07:12 PM.
                    Diane
                    www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                    SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                    HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                    Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                    Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                    Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                    @PainPhysiosCan
                    WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                    @WCPTPTPN
                    Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                    @dfjpt
                    SomaSimple on Facebook
                    @somasimple

                    "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                    “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                    “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                    "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                    "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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                    • #11
                      I grew up listening to the songs from musicals and my brother Kevin reminded me of this one from South Pacific yesterday.

                      Makes you think about the language the culture uses to describe dysfunction in such an unrealistic way, doesn't it?
                      Barrett L. Dorko

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                      • #12
                        Speaking of culture, this descibes what we do NOT need (twittered by SandyHiltonPT).
                        Attacks paid for by big business are 'driving science into a dark era'.

                        "Those of us who grew up in the sixties, when we put men on the Moon, now have to watch as every Republican candidate for this year's presidential election denies the science behind climate change and evolution. That is a staggering state of affairs and it is very worrying," said Professor Naomi Oreskes, of the University of California, San Diego...."It has taken the scientific community a long time to realise what it is up against," says Oreskes. "In the past, it thought the problem was just a matter of education. All its practitioners had to do was make an effort to reach out and talk to teachers, the public and business leaders. Then these people would see the issues and understand the need for action.
                        "But now they are beginning to realise what they are really up against: massive organised attempts to undermine scientific data by people for whom that data represents a threat to their status quo. Given the power of these people, scientists will have their work cut out dealing with them."
                        :sad::thumbs_do

                        This has to do with science around global warming/climate change, but it easily transmits into any domain or level of science, because it's ideological. I.e., Mesodermalism and its clunky misrepresenting language may continue to win into the foreseeable future.

                        I hope brain mapping etc. as a science exploration can continue without becoming colonized by dark-age thinking. But somehow I doubt it.
                        Diane
                        www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                        SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                        HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                        Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                        Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                        Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                        @PainPhysiosCan
                        WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                        @WCPTPTPN
                        Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                        @dfjpt
                        SomaSimple on Facebook
                        @somasimple

                        "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                        “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                        “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                        "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                        "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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                        • #13
                          New treatment encounter Part V
                          Diane
                          www.dermoneuromodulation.com
                          SensibleSolutionsPhysiotherapy
                          HumanAntiGravitySuit blog
                          Neurotonics PT Teamblog
                          Canadian Physiotherapy Pain Science Division (Archived newsletters, paincasts)
                          Canadian Physiotherapy Association Pain Science Division Facebook page
                          @PainPhysiosCan
                          WCPT PhysiotherapyPainNetwork on Facebook
                          @WCPTPTPN
                          Neuroscience and Pain Science for Manual PTs Facebook page

                          @dfjpt
                          SomaSimple on Facebook
                          @somasimple

                          "Rene Descartes was very very smart, but as it turned out, he was wrong." ~Lorimer Moseley

                          “Comment is free, but the facts are sacred.” ~Charles Prestwich Scott, nephew of founder and editor (1872-1929) of The Guardian , in a 1921 Centenary editorial

                          “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you, but if you really make them think, they'll hate you." ~Don Marquis

                          "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists" ~Roland Barth

                          "Doubt is not a pleasant mental state, but certainty is a ridiculous one."~Voltaire

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                          • #14
                            :clap2:THANK YOU:clap2:

                            These blogs are what patient cancellations were made for - the paper work has just been de-prioritised.
                            Peering over the shoulders of giants.

                            Know pain. Know gain.

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                            • #15
                              Again thanks Diane, this is great stuff, i hope you don't mind if i share it.

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