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  • A New Workshop - Opinions Sought

    I’ve entered into my third full year of teaching for Cross Country and have been asked to alter my course. Having visited a number of cities three times at this point I can appreciate their concern about saturating the local therapy communities with my ideas and offering something else seems like a good idea.

    Toward that end I’ve put together a new seminar title and brief course description and have submitted it. It will look familiar to many of you and I’m soliciting opinions regarding its possible popularity. It’s up to me to make it useful and relevant.

    Thanks in advance.

    Seminar Title:

    Manual Magic
    The Application of Modern Neuroscience to Manual Care

    • Learn how to reveal your patient’s self-corrective abilities
    • Explain to colleagues and referral sources the nature of neurogenic pain
    • Learn and apply safe and painless home programs for chronic discomfort
    • Learn how to solve clinical problems by using the Internet

    Course Description

    Persistent discomfort for which there is no surgical or chemical solution is a remarkably common problem and accounts for over half of the population attending treatment in the therapeutic community. Many of these patients appropriately seek a mechanical solution and hope to find that in the hands of a therapist who understands the ways in which they need to move in order to feel better. Many therapists spend their careers searching for a solution to these problems and add “tools” along the way, hoping to find the right one. Still, the problem persists, and is in fact growing.

    This workshop proposes that the best tool we may possess is a reasonable and defendable understanding of the underlying problem and that this understanding begins with the realization that all pain is neurogenic. Once a therapist can see this, a relatively simple strategy for a manual approach to both examination and treatment will emerge. It will be demonstrated that this approach is easily learned and that the patient’s therapeutic response is both predictable and readily translated into a home program. Our patients aren’t helped nearly so much by our skills as they are helped by the depth of our understanding, and that understanding will be made available to all who attend. Sufficient workshop time will demonstrate that we already possess the skill necessary to make Manual Magic. In this course Barrett uses his skills as a veteran clinician, juggler, harmonica player and magician to bring every concept alive and unforgettable.

    Course Content

    The Concept of Manual Magic (30 minutes)
    How and why manual care appears unusual when it is most effective

    The Nature of Neurogenic Pain and Self-Correction (60 minutes)
    The Neurobiologic Revolution and the birth of Ectodermal Care

    Clinical Reasoning in the 21st Century (45 minutes)
    Ultimate and Abductive Reasoning – This Changes Everything

    The Application of Manual Magic – Workshop (60 minutes)
    The importance and result of a non-threatening approach to manual care

    Internet Connections for Clinical Problems (45 minutes)
    Where to go, how to assess information, how to ask questions

    Active Exercise for Neurogenic Pain (60 Minutes)
    Movement therapy that is carefully choreographed, painless and effective

    Patient PresentationExamination Form and Documentation of Progress
    Making the most of the time available
    Barrett L. Dorko

  • #2
    I like it which likely means it's doomed. When do you plan to take the show on the road?
    "I did a small amount of web-based research, and what I found is disturbing"--Bob Morris


    • #3
      I like it too.
      Not sure about the reaction to 'magic', knowing how hidebound so many PTs seem to be.
      But the truth is in the telling..............



      • #4

        I'm in agreement about the possibility of rejection because of the word, but while this inevitably draws attention, the subtitle appears intriguing enough to keep them there. Maybe they'll even stay long enough to read the description.

        I think this might be enough to create confusion.

        Just what I need.
        Barrett L. Dorko


        • #5
          Some part of my brain wants to see "science" or "evidence" three times for every use of the word "magic". Maybe I'm just jaded after reading about too many questionable CEU courses.

          My knowledge that your course is packed with cutting edge research evidence in neuroscience and pain physiology doesn't seem to temper that need as much as I would hope. Oh, and no "evidence-based practice" buzz phrase? What gives?

          I like this a lot - especially the subtitles and the material about using the internet to find evidence and how to document progress and evaluate the patient.

          This seems like a very good combination of teaching people to understand more and at the same time offering them a course that seems to be saying "here - do THIS..." which we all know they tend to want.

          I love it. Don't change a thing.
          Jason Silvernail DPT, DSc, FAAOMPT
          Board-Certified in Orthopedic Physical Therapy
          Fellowship-Trained in Orthopedic Manual Therapy

          Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist

          The views expressed in this entry are those of the author alone and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense, or the US Government.


          • #6
            Confusion, I would say, is just what you need.

            If the reaction is a confusion between what they think they know and what they don't know, that's good. Room for thinking.

            If the reaction is: That's rubbish and nothing to do with what I know about muscle and joints...then that is a problem, but it remains their problem....

            Here's to confusion.



            • #7
              I think it looks great Barrett. If many people are like me (which may be a scary thought) they'll search the internet for the name of a course that draws their interest. Searching "manual magic" will of course lead them here. I can't imagine a therapist truly interested in growth that would not be interested in attending after browsing your wonderful thread and then reading through what will be addressed in the course. Any chance of you kicking off the new tour in Portland? Pretty please?
              Last edited by bernard; 13-06-2007, 10:00 AM. Reason: couse to course
              Cory Blickenstaff, PT, OCS

              Pain Science and Sensibility Podcast
              Leaps and Bounds Blog
              My youtube channel


              • #8
                Mr. Wizard and Me

                Thank you for the response and encouragement.

                Like many baby boomers I remember quite well ”Mr. Wizard” who, as it happens, passed away last night. The actor Don Herbert played the role of a kindly but intensely focused gentleman who made everyday objects and observations bristle with the forces of nature that they truly represented.

                Perhaps I can play a similar role in this presentation, regularly taking the opportunity to reveal what’s actually happening in the deep model when we handle another and observe movement. Today my head is full of the possibilities.
                Barrett L. Dorko


                • #9
                  Barrett, you may have already considered this, but be prepared to see many PTs and others looking for the "next MFR"......Manual Magic may well be a big magnet for the "woo-woo" crowd. Just a thought.

                  Then again - also a chance to make converts away from the "dark side" of CST, PR, MFR, WALOC.
                  We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are - Anais Nin

                  I suppose it's easier to believe something than it is to understand it.
                  Cmdr. Chris Hadfield on rise of poor / pseudo science

                  Pain is a conscious correlate of the implicit perception of threat to body tissue - Lorimer Moseley

                  We don't need a body to feel a body. Ronald Melzack


                  • #10

                    Actually, I had thought of this. Of course they're welcome to attend, mainly because their money will spend like any others (ha,ha).

                    Seriously though, I really want everybody who handles others there. I'm in a perfect position to speak to them about the importance of theory and can easily draw the distinction between a magician and a superhero. I can introduce them to Newton's Second Law and watch as they begin to consider its significance to their thinking.

                    I can show them how trivial the "secrets" kept from them by other teachers truly are.

                    Actually, in my current course I already do all of this and have met many wonderful though badly misguided therapists along the way who respond to my information quite well. Almost without exception, they're grateful for it.
                    Barrett L. Dorko


                    • #11

                      From paragraph two of your course description:

                      "This workshop proposes that the best tool we may possess is a reasonable and defendable understanding of the underlying problem and that this understanding begins with the realization that all pain is neurogenic"

                      This phrase, in my opinion, is the key to the workshop. I have been thinking since your course about culture affecting our patients expression of authentic movement, but also affecting our ability as clinicians to integrate new information. Self help books teach us techniques to be succesful. We are programmed by society to look for ways to better leverage our resourses for better outcomes. As you state, what we really need is better knowledge and understanding, not better techniques.

                      For those not in tune to the ideas on this forum, that may not be evident from the subtitle. They might benefit from a more prominent display of that sentence/idea.

                      Just my two cents,



                      • #12

                        I agree entirely. I suppose that the best I can do is to have the statement you've mention printed in bold type.

                        Anybody have a better idea?
                        Barrett L. Dorko


                        • #13

                          I think it looks great, but has much more of a marketing spin/sound than I would have expected from you. That's not meant to be an insult, so I hope it doesn't sound like one.

                          What I continue to see as a strength of your seminar is that it is a one-day format, without additional levels and prerequisites. Perhaps others see this as a weakness, without the potential for "certification" or "specialization". Also, all of your work and thoughts are readily available online before and after (and during, for that matter) the seminar.

                          I like the marketing twist, and I suspect it will catch the interest of a great many.



                          • #14
                            I'm with Jason on the word "magic", and that word may be fuel for some of your naysayers to lump you in with the likes of MFR/CST, it would make me cringe at first, but as I read on my interest would be peaked. Of course since I already know you, I'll attend if possible when you come around.



                            • #15
                              Hi Wes,

                              I'm working on getting the course to come to central WI. Since you display more pro-social behavior than myself, do you have any feeling for whether there would be interest in such an event from the therapy types you converse with?

                              I'm going to try to arrange it on my own and skip the employer assited version.
                              "I did a small amount of web-based research, and what I found is disturbing"--Bob Morris