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    Jason Silvernail DPT, DSc, FAAOMPT
    Board-Certified in Orthopedic Physical Therapy
    Fellowship-Trained in Orthopedic Manual Therapy

    Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist


    The views expressed in this entry are those of the author alone and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense, or the US Government.

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    • :thumbs_up :thumbs_up
      We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are - Anais Nin

      I suppose it's easier to believe something than it is to understand it.
      Cmdr. Chris Hadfield on rise of poor / pseudo science

      Pain is a conscious correlate of the implicit perception of threat to body tissue - Lorimer Moseley

      We don't need a body to feel a body. Ronald Melzack

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      • So small... :angel:

        Here is mine.

        Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
        We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

        Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
        If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
        bernard

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        • I can't wait.
          Luke Rickards
          Osteopath

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          • Bernard - quelle truc! :-)
            We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are - Anais Nin

            I suppose it's easier to believe something than it is to understand it.
            Cmdr. Chris Hadfield on rise of poor / pseudo science

            Pain is a conscious correlate of the implicit perception of threat to body tissue - Lorimer Moseley

            We don't need a body to feel a body. Ronald Melzack

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            • Sebastian,

              Humor is a thing to make seriously. :angel:
              By the way and fortunately, it doesn't prove that I'm a bit serious.

              ps: "Quelle" doesn't work => "Quel" is necessary since "truc" is a masculine.
              Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
              We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

              Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
              If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
              bernard

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              • Barrett asked me to share the first essay of the "booklet".
                Opinions and advices are welcome.
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                Last edited by bernard; 30-03-2007, 02:35 PM. Reason: pdf modified
                Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. L VINCI
                We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. I NEWTON

                Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not a bit simpler.
                If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein
                bernard

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                • Manual Magic - Life or Death?

                  I heard Garrison Keillor say this on his daily pod cast, “The Writer’s Almanac”: Today is the birthday of Harry Houdini who once said, “The easiest way to attract a crowd is to let it be known that in a given time and in a given place someone is going to attempt something that in the event of failure will result in sudden death.”

                  I’ve been thinking about this as I search around for ways to promote attendance at my workshops. I wonder if there is some subtle way of implying such a possibility during the course of manual care. It seems that the myofascial and crainial people have done it with their spurious claims of success by mysterious means of handling employed by exquisitely trained practitioners working in very special clinics. John Barnes himself appears on the front of his brochure standing in the clouds. I’m not kidding.

                  Is there some sort of implied danger here? Some kind of death imminent if the technique proves unsuccessful?

                  But, to me, manual magic is instead about revealing life as it is manifest through instinctive movement.

                  No wonder it’s a hard sell.
                  Barrett L. Dorko

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                  • I think the fear is related to what a stuck cranial bone can cause. I remember being very fearful about what I might do to someone with my new powers of gentle handling if I didn't complete all my craniosacral levels. According to the Upledger folks it doesn't take much for a vital bone to be displaced and the list of what that could do you is endless.:thumbs_do I guess it just makes for more 'living on the edge' moments than downregulating a sensitive nervous system with gentle, instinctive movements. Maybe you need to throw in some more threats about what will happen if we don't show people how to shed their cultural armour and ideomote.

                    Nick
                    Nick Matheson, PT
                    Strengthen Your Health

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                    • NIck,

                      Precisely. I hadn't thought this through. It's not the danger inherent to the technique or the possibility that the teacher might "die" out there but rather the implied disastrous consequences of not doing the technique with sufficient skill. This is what draws crowds.

                      These crowds typically consist of repeat students who are desperate to learn the real "secret" behind the charismatic instructor's way of being.

                      But in manual magic there are no secrets, and the performance of the manual magician is a result of his or her personality variant combined with their unique experience. This can't be taught.
                      Barrett L. Dorko

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                      • Bernard - thanks for the refresher in french...It has been a while....

                        Barrett, I do believe that you are right. An element of danger is an attraction - to magic, to rollercoasters and to PT techniques. In your flyer and on your website, you may allude to "learning critical" aspects of handling, from an "expert" teacher, who has studied and "perfected" this "revolutionary" approach and will "carefully" teach you the "intricacies" of the technique.... These are marketing buzz-words to set your stage for your version of "magic".
                        Now, NOT having any danger in your approach, nor risk to the patient, is a bit of a problem - the participants will be disappointed. But hey: it will be AFTER they have paid your course, right? And that is what it's all about (at least with Upledger and Barnes....). Maybe you can speak of the "armageddon" caused by non-corrected human motion. "The future of the human race is at risk - UNLESS you practice exactly like this"....:teeth:

                        Anyway - well-done thread with cool analogies.
                        We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are - Anais Nin

                        I suppose it's easier to believe something than it is to understand it.
                        Cmdr. Chris Hadfield on rise of poor / pseudo science

                        Pain is a conscious correlate of the implicit perception of threat to body tissue - Lorimer Moseley

                        We don't need a body to feel a body. Ronald Melzack

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                        • Bas,

                          You're right, a great thread. Its popularity endures as indicated by the numbers. I put together a 15 page booklet titled "Manual Magic" for the classes in New York this week and will let you know if I sell any. It's cheap ($10) and concise. I will suggest students visit here as well. Most won't.

                          I begin my classes with a short example of how we are moved insidiously but powerfully by the culture and then build on that theme, saying a few times, "You ignore the culture at your peril." Unfortunately, many therapists think that they have to like the culture in order to see it clearly. They're wrong. After all, I don't like The Jerry Springer Show but I understand what it is and what it represents.

                          Without carefully questioning the dictates of fashion, the zeitgeist, fads, trends and the myths that infect our brains, we are tossed about and lost to our own inclinations and better judgement. This is dangerous, of course, but not especially obvious.

                          In the end we have McTherapy performed by McTherapists with a McJob.

                          To me, that's a horror movie that we're not just watching, we're playing a starring role.
                          Barrett L. Dorko

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                          • In post #171 on this thread I spoke of Houdini's death secondary to peritonitis. Now I see that this has been called into question:

                            NEW YORK (March 23) - For all his death-defying stunts, Harry Houdini couldn't escape the Grim Reaper: He died on Halloween 1926, apparently from a punch to the stomach that ruptured his appendix. But rumors that he was murdered have persisted for decades. Eighty-one years after Houdini's death, his great-nephew wants the escape artist's body exhumed to determine if enemies poisoned him for debunking their bogus claims of contact with the dead.

                            "It needs to be looked at," George Hardeen told The Associated Press. "His death shocked the entire nation, if not the world. Now, maybe it's time to take a second look."

                            Considering what Houdini's family scheduled a news conference for Friday to give details on the plans. Prominent New York lawyer Joseph Tacopina is helping clear any legal hurdles to the exhumation.

                            A team of top forensic investigators would conduct new tests on Houdini's body, said Hardeen, whose grandfather was Houdini's brother.

                            The circumstances surrounding Houdini's sudden death are as murky as the rivers where he often escaped from chains, locks and wooden boxes.


                            I've been thinking about what this implies; about how some of us are desperate to solve mysteries, or, perhaps, to create mysteries where none really exist. I think therapists are of both sorts and that's what Ockam's Razor is for.

                            I was also thinking about the number of times I have debunked the claims of the "alternative" or "integrative" or "holistic" therapists I've heard of or met.

                            What I mean is this: If I should suddenly, well, you know, die. I'd like someone to look into it right away. Please don't wait 80 years.
                            Last edited by bernard; 30-03-2007, 02:30 PM. Reason: Added link to post #171
                            Barrett L. Dorko

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                            • OK, Barrett, someone will look into it.

                              The catch is that it might take 80 years to solve it.


                              Nari

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                              • Dealing from the Center

                                His magic is performed with complete naturalness, its artistry that of the art that conceals art. The consummate skill and technique is there but it is never displayed; it is, on the contrary, so carefully hidden that the performer is applauded not for his nimble-fingered dexterity but because he has, with the effortless ease of a real magician, exhibited a feat of what must be real magic.

                                Jean Hugard and Frederick Braue
                                Expert Card Technique, Third Edition

                                I just began reading The Magician and the Cardsharp where this quote appears before any of the text. This is the true story of the legendary sleight of hand master, Dai Vernon, and his quest to find an elusive card sharp who could do something no one else had been able to do; deal from the center of the deck.

                                I’m planning on using this book to reveal further aspects of manual magic that have yet to occur to me but should fit easily into this thread, and this quote struck me immediately.

                                One of the tings that I do when employing Simple Contact is to “play with my pressure.” By this I mean that I randomly alter what I’m doing with the various portions of my hand that are having their small but important mechanical effects on the patient’s skin. I’m opening up stretch activated ion channels ( and here) in the epithelium, of course, and searching for some combination of these that lead toward what I want.

                                This slight alteration doesn’t look like much to any observer. In fact, there’s really nothing to see, though the person touched can certainly sense it. But it may be essential for successful application of the method and I’m becoming increasingly aware that it should be taught specifically.

                                Like the master magician described in the quote above, the therapist doesn’t seem to be doing anything unnatural at all though this kind of handling is decidedly novel and rare in the world of common manual care.

                                Of course, if we’re true to the manual magic dictum; There are no secrets, we shouldn’t try to hide what we’re about – we should explain it.
                                Last edited by Barrett Dorko; 05-04-2007, 12:16 AM.
                                Barrett L. Dorko

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