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    I say many things while teaching and the “flow” of the course that people talk about is, I guess, due to the fact that this is done pretty much without a plan. Well, that is, without a plan I'm aware of while implementing it.

    There are four things I want to emphasize:
    • Ideomotion
    • Evolutionary Reasoning
    • Origins
    • Essential vs. Nominal Diagnosis


    Each of these comprise a “corner” and, thus, form a square. This thread will be about the essay each has generated their practical application in the clinic.

    Much more soon.
    Barrett L. Dorko

  • #2
    Square, isn't that awfully Euclidean of you?
    Nicholas Marki, P.T.

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    • #3
      Yea, it is. But people like that stuff.

      Beyond that, I've always felt that each of these was as important as the others. Equilaterality, you know?
      Last edited by Barrett Dorko; 02-05-2013, 11:21 PM.
      Barrett L. Dorko

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      • #4
        I'm just teasing you.

        I'm still learning about your method (and explanation), I crossed the chasm I think I need a road map...
        Nicholas Marki, P.T.

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        • #5
          Do my eyes deceive me or was that a laterality joke?

          http://www.noigroup.com/recognise
          Last edited by Dan84; 03-05-2013, 04:32 AM.
          Dan
          Tactile Raconteur

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          • #6
            Well, unintentionally.

            Let's take these out of order and go for Evolutionary Reasoning first. This essay explains it but, in the end, it's easier to simply say:

            Isometric activity in the musculature is often more properly considered the need to contract isotonically than the need to "relax."

            This is huge.

            Would anyone like to disagree?
            Last edited by Barrett Dorko; 05-04-2014, 06:03 PM.
            Barrett L. Dorko

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            • #7
              I agree with notion.

              How do we promote that in ourselves and others?

              How do we unbind the ideomotor activity?
              Nicholas Marki, P.T.

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              • #8
                How do you decide to speak when you sit with someone you trust? Can you find the courage to move instinctively while alone?

                The first is something we're very familiar with but the second requires explanation, story and permission. Is there anybody from the New York course who can't move now?
                Barrett L. Dorko

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                • #9
                  How do we give permission?
                  Nicholas Marki, P.T.

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                  • #10
                    Anyone?
                    Barrett L. Dorko

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Barrett Dorko View Post
                      Anyone?
                      Originally posted by nickmPT View Post
                      How do we give permission?
                      Addition by subtraction.

                      SC removes stigma, bias and judgement.

                      Respectfully,
                      Keith
                      Blog: Keith's Korner
                      Twitter: @18mmPT

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by keithp View Post
                        Addition by subtraction.

                        SC removes stigma, bias and judgement.
                        What do you do or say to help remove these things?

                        Are your hands necessary for this?
                        Nicholas Marki, P.T.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nickmPT View Post
                          What do you do or say to help remove these things?
                          I don't know...it will be different for every patient, I think. At least it was today.

                          Originally posted by nickmPT View Post
                          Are your hands necessary for this?
                          No. I had practiced a bit on my own before going to the SC course and I discovered (once at the course) that what I was tapping into by myself was indeed what Barrett had referenced in his writings and was what I had seen on Dorko Diamonds. Even then, though, context was initially important for me to be successful (quiet room, alone, instrumental guitar music).

                          I suspect that the patient does need our hands, though. It can be appreciated immediately. What is the phrase...sufficient but not necessary?

                          Respectfully,
                          Keith
                          Blog: Keith's Korner
                          Twitter: @18mmPT

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                          • #14
                            BTW...I just read my last 2 posts and realized that I was somewhat cryptic, but feel that any more specificity is inappropriate.

                            I used to wonder about some of Barrett's posts and how non-descript they were and sometimes wish they had more detail...now I am writing like him (only with worse punctuation).

                            My apologies, Nick...this is the best I have to offer tonight.

                            Respectfully,
                            Keith
                            Blog: Keith's Korner
                            Twitter: @18mmPT

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                            • #15
                              No, I understand. It is a learning process.

                              Do you talk about pain education first?

                              Do you preface the manual contact with anything to get them started? (move instinctively, discuss ideomotion, perhaps PNF-type active-assist movement, etc.)

                              I just have no idea where to get started with something that appears so minimalist (not that that is a bad thing).

                              Thank you for answering Keith, no matter how cryptic
                              Nicholas Marki, P.T.

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