what are we doing about strings?

[nari]

Hi guys

I have just watched the second part of The Elegant Universe, the section on string theories; and started to think about the current status of the string theorists/physicists' difficulties. If there is no answer yet to the goings-on at the basic level of subatomic physics - what hope do biologists and others have in sorting out how the body behaves at the cellular level?

It makes one think that, despite all the discoveries and achievements of scientists to date - we are really a long way from understanding how things work; it is the sort of challenge that would drive us to distraction!


Nari

[bernard]

Nari,

I'm not sure that, as human beings, we'll be able to understand Universe or a single cell (another microscopic one), one day. If we do it, life mysteries will be gone and Man becomes a God with terrific powers.

Man has had already created monsters and it's not necessary to give him such evilness. Resolving Strings theories will not give him a complete knowlegde about the World around us but perhaps a way to destruct it more faster.

I can give you a Science Forum for a trial, I love when Man and Woman tries to change the World and Human beings. => Give me a name?

[Diane]

I should think there is nothing that can be done. About strings anyway. Maybe we don't need to worry, they'll take care of themselves. We'll continue to get the news about advances, when and if we should start to consider them more seriously.. I love postmodern times.

About cells, I learned today that their way of dismantling themselves, autophagy, enhances their survival. How cool is that? Another biological trick our bodies learned to do from cell teachers! Sort of like adaptations to famine. The article is actually about how cells use this attribute to defend themselves against bacterial invasion.
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/508649/?sc=dwhn
Diane

[nari]

True words. if they ever work out about strings, something will always come up and confound the principle.
Who wants to know everything anyway, but certain bits of cosmology and the nanobe worlds and subatomic universes just grabs me...


Nari

[Diane]

It's all very good cognitive exercise, keeps the neurons sharp and the wheels turning. It's all good novel information for the brain to work out with.
I totally approve!
Diane

[bernard]

Hi all,

It's all very good cognitive exercise...

but certain bits of cosmology and the nanobe worlds and subatomic universes just grabs me...

A new universe is born! :wink: Cells and Stars?

[nari]

Bernard

In the vernacular:

Yep!

Except it was always there but we did not always look hard enough and concentrated on what technology was available.

Nari

[bernard]

Nari,

Your new forum Cells and Stars is born. You're the moderator!
It is located in the WWW section.

[nari]

Bernard

I cannot keep up with your enthusiasm!!


But I'll try......


Nari

[bernard]

Cell => a complete Universe, living and dying.
Star => a cell in the Universe, living and dying.

[nari]

Bernard,

You make some interesting statements here, and it is true that knowing how subatomic structures function does not help us work out the state of the universe. Or if the theory carries over into everything.

That is why the are looking at M theory which accounts for everything.

Probably impossible- but 2 centuries ago nobody would have dreamed of the atom's existence.
We are made of the same stuff that floats around in space - 'stardust' and that is known. So why would it not help, if M theory is developed, to understand the body better?

If we do not try to find the basics out, what hope do we have of working on the complexities of inorganic and organic structures?

I will try to post some info ....soon.


Nari

[bernard]

Hi SomaSimplers,

Here is a paper about the experiment I told =>

It is on the Sound of Silence (protected section).
http://www.somasimple.com/forums3/viewtopic.php?t=663

[Diane]

Hi,
Nari, We are made of the same stuff that floats around in space - 'stardust' and that is known. So why would it not help, if M theory is developed, to understand the body better?

I remember something Joy Colangelo said one time that made great sense; she said something like, "Maybe science isn't able to clear up the mystery, but maybe it can make the mystery more clear." Her words have echoed in my head ever since.
Diane

[bernard]

Hi,

I may break your enthusiasm here but it is clearly impossible for many reasons:
1/ If stardust falls on Earth then it is stardust ashes. Entering in the atmosphere is a huge barrier and unfortunate candidates will pay of their lives trying to reach the ground with such speeds.
2/ Physics rules are different and different rules may produce different properties.
3/ Then stardust ashes will be melt with local material to give another material?

[Diane]

Bernard,
We're not talking about current stardust, but rather stardust from long ago that accumulated into the home planet, then us. I think that's the sequence that makes sense.
Diane