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Diane
30-04-2008, 01:56 AM
At last I found, bought, and am busy reading a book that goes into excruciating scientific detail about neural crest, Neural Crest in Development and Evolution (http://books.google.ca/books?id=5PQ9p1oqoCcC&pg=PR5&lpg=PR5&dq=Neural+Crest+book&source=web&ots=NuNdIIeiyu&sig=tgsKggvWwg5w-NskRsbU7gxBKlY&hl=en#PPA3,M1) (1999), by Brian Hall (http://biology.dal.ca/us/f/hall/hall.html) at Dalhousie, Halifax, Nova Scotia.

Neural crest is being considered as "the fourth germ layer". It makes a large amount of surprising structure in the body and head beside peripheral nerves (sensory and autonomic) and the support cells for them. There is a large amount of info here about ectodermal/mesodermal interaction, what induces what, etc. Hall is careful to point out (see the online lecture linked to below) that what is currently known about neural crest is from work done on chicks, and has only been extrapolated to humans - human neural crest may have some variations to offer up to future investigators.

Because of what we do as manual therapists, I think it's good to understand what this embryonic "layer" does and what it makes. It derives from ectoderm, after the neural tube is already well on its way to forming, and long after mesoderm has already been kicked off by ectoderm and is busily making things out of itself. Like mesoderm, it migrates inwardly, but unlike mesoderm, it makes nerves and a few structures, e.g., connective tissue inside glands, something I never knew about neural crest. I knew it made most of the face including bits of jaw and the teeth.

Apparently (according to Hall) it was neural crest which may well have made bony plates inside skin in our ancient finny forbearers. It was mentioned in Your Inner Fish that teeth are bony remnants from long long ago, although the neural crest connection wasn't pointed out specifically. The neural crest cell populations that make teeth have been separate from those that (can, ostensibly) make (dermal) bone for 500 million years.

Hall is now "retired" and working on a revision of Strickberger's Evolution 4th Ed., a textbook on evolution (http://www.jbpub.com/catalog/9780763700669/). This is Ch. 1 (18 page pdf) (http://www.jbpub.com/samples/0763700665/00665_CH01_revised.pdf).

Other links:
1. Unscrambling the egg (http://www.nserc.gc.ca/news/2002/win_hall_e.htm)
2. Online lecture by Brian Hall on cranial neural crest (http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/craniofacial/Symposium/HallLect.cfm?Category=Scientist) (as opposed to "truncal" neural crest, which behaves differently in modern mammals and birds). It takes awhile to load;patience is advised.
3. Short summary (http://www.canadacouncil.ca/news/releases/2005/fs127566712239373750.htm) of his achievements (about a third of the way down the page), leader in Evo-Devo
4. The book, Variations (http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/bookdescription.cws_home/705523/description), which he co-authored
5. More info (http://www.science.ca/scientists/scientistprofile.php?pID=366) on Brian Hall and his work

Diane
03-05-2008, 04:31 PM
If you click on the google online version of this book (or any google book) you will see a search box. Just for fun I typed in "immune system" - it tells me info on the immune system can be found page 92, 204, 223, 256, and 301.

Page 92: Quail/chick chimeras survive past hatching, although spina cord chimeras, in which a portion of the trunk neural crest of one species is replaced by that of the other, do show some breakdown in tolerance after hatching. Interestingly the immune response begins in peripheral nerve ganglia (which are derived from the grafted neural crest) rather than centrally within the spinal cord.

The rest are pointers to references.

Try typing in the word "thymus". On page 15 we learn that neural crest turns into connective tissue of all major neuroendocrine glands, and also lacrymal.

Diane
03-05-2008, 10:24 PM
Here is a link (http://www.somasimple.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5518) to articles about development of the immune system, and one on thymus/neural interaction.