Am I not relaxed in Sleep ?

[emad]

Hi all:

I am trying to apply somatic education through my work ,so i teach the consumer to learn the active relaxation of the painful area , two of them asked me :

If thus relaxation you are telling us about of benefit ,am i not relaxed enough during my sleep to cure that pain :?:

cheers
emad

[rolf]

Hi Emade!
What is active relaxation of a painful aera?
If pain is giving my patient problems with sleeping,i have to consentrate the treatment on the tissue that gives my patient these sleeping/relaxation problems.
To me its quite important to try to give my patient painfree sleep as fast as possible.A lot is done when the patient inform me that they are now sleeping good not aweakening in the night due to pain.
RIN

[Green Hornet]

Diaphragmatic breathing and body scanning are my ways at my bed time and first in the mornining.
I also do eye/jaw/facial/tongue exercises to stimulate cranial nerve and to let go of the tension.

[emad]

Hi Bernard,Takao &Rin:
I am sorry to say ,you have misunderstood my point,.

What i mean:
I try to teach the consumer active relaxtaion of the painful area ,control his pain actively through relaxaing the muscle at his intention ,

So the consumer ask me if the relaxtion status of the muscle is of benefit ,during my seelp ,usually i am relaxed , so relaxation in sleep could cure the pain!!

My answer is that :

In sleep the relaxation is a passive process ( unconsciouss)
what i teach him is active relaxation by invloving his intention/attention

cheers
emad

[rolf]

Hi Emad?
Could you please give me an example of your active relaxation tecknics which you are useing on your patients?
Im not quite sure what yuo mean?
RIN

[emad]

Hi Rolf:
When you assess the patient any type of pain , you find that the area is tensioned , for example a case of referred pain along the upper limb ,say for example because of cervical disorder , you will find the patient is afraid from moving , actively/at his intention trying to avoid moving the painful part ; so simply i ask the patient to relax that area, then moving slowly,simply all in the range which could not evoke pain .

Somtime the patient will tell you i am tensioned invoulntary, I then try to help him explaing the issue simply , move your hand , the patient moves , i said to him you have done that movement by your self/intention so you can relax that tensioned area ,.

thus what i mean active relaxation !!!
i am online i will read your reply
cheers
emad

[rolf]

Hi Emad!
I think i now what you mean.!ThanksRIN :wink:

[emad]

Hi bernard:
please explain that more clearly .


cheers
emad :lol:

[nari]

Methods of relaxation can certainly be helpful in all cases of pain, acute and chronic - but I am not sure of its effect or carry-over during sleep.

The brain is very busy during sleep: housekeeping, sorting, cleaning out, while it, by some means unknown, 'keeps' its body out of the way. Non-REM sleep is considered now to be far more important than REM (dreaming phase), and people suffering from sleep deficit are usually deficit in NonREM.
Remember hearing tired people say: "tossed and turned all night with stupid/nasty dreams?"

Some ABI (aquired brain injury) people have no REM phase at all, yet can function quite well, provided executive functioning and memory is OK.

Bernard -

when you are thinking about conscious relaxation techniques, give 'stretch-let go' a try, rather than 'contract - let go'.
Try it with a hand or foot - and see which feels more effective?


Nari

[emad]

Bernard:

could you put on the abbreviations augment

cheers
emad

[Chancellor Mobley]

Are we missing something here? Where is Bernard's replies?