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nari
19-09-2004, 04:04 AM
I have been asked by Bernard to post some movements which can be used for patients with spontaneous/persistent pain, or, for anyone who is a bit stiff and hates boring exercise routines:

All of these movements place some tension on the long nerves, but it is quite intermittent, and they should not be regarded as stretches; that implies prolonged static postures, and most of our patients do not need that. So they might be called 'neurodynamic movements' or whatever seems appropriate.

First, remember where the large nerves are (check your anatomy if needed!) and respect them - if the movements are overdone with too many repetitions, a flare will occur; although this does no harm, it is best to avoid, if possible.
Start with 4-5 repetitions for each movement, and 2-3x day. I have no idea what is best, and I hate recipes anyway; so all we can do is try, and warn about flares. Each person will be different in their pain experience, so each set of movements should be tailored to individual needs.

Upper Limb:

Skiing - slalom movements, bend the knees and sweep both arms full range through flex/extend. Holding something employs the radial nerve better eg stocks.

PNF patterns: Move along the PNF diagonals, unilaterally or bilat.
Flex or extend the neck according to what degree of tension you want.
(Does everyone know their PNF????)

Waiter's tray - balance a tray (or virtual tray) on your hand and sweep from high on one side down to the 'table' on the contralteral side. Maintain the extended wrist and fingers. Make up fancy variations.

Place both hands behind the neck, and close over the ears with the fingers downwards. (ULNT4) Apply a bit of traction through the arms to the neck, and have a fiddle with OC1C2 if you like. Patients love this one once they get the hang of it. Hold for only a few moments, then relax arms down.

Egyptian dancing: For the more flexible ones. Remember the poses on the ancient Egyptian tombs, walls of crypts? Turn them into dynamic movements, remember where the median n. is, and improvise!


General spinal:
"wringing" - I like to call it spinal Tai Chi:

Lie on the floor in crook lying, arms comfortably at the side, or in abduction/ER -(tension, watch for flare). Roll both hips to one side, slowly, and simultaneously, turn the head to the contralateral side. Breathe normally, avoid any breath holding. Pause for a few seconds at the limit of movement, then reverse to the opposite pattern.
Note that if the neck is flexed foward, the neural tension will increase.


Have to go - lower limb next post.


Nari :wink:

emad
19-09-2004, 12:32 PM
Hi Bernard & Nari:

Very good idea ,and more than excellent .

To make the issue complete ,Bernard, how about putting pictures/port/ to illustrate those ideas .

thank you
cheers
emad

nari
20-09-2004, 03:06 AM
Lower limb:

More tricky to do compard with UL.

Sliding and gliding and tensioning the sciatic:

Probably the most practical one I use is the sitting, slump, SLR + DF/INV/EV (depends on what nerve you are aiming for) and neck flexion and extension. The neck movement can be done once all the rest is in position. Again, patients tend to overdo this one. Stress that it is not a muscle exercise (though it's useful for that), and that they need to experience the pain, gently.

Another is the PKB, propped with elbows, useful for femoral nerve, bilateral, +/- neck ext/flex. Here the pelvis needs to be observed that it is not coming into compensatory movement. This is not suitable, of course, if lumbar extension increases peripheral pain...!

Another one is the variation on the 'wringing' movement above. Roll one knee at a time over the other leg, and experiment with ipsilateral and contralteral UL positioning. What is known as a 'piriformis' stretch (which may not exist as an entity at all) is useful for nerve as well. Occasionally the peripheral pain resolves with this - sometimes not!


General activities:
belly dancing, Tai Chi, dancing, yoga (but maybe be careful of prolonged stretches), ballet manoevres (if known by the patient), swimming, (changing strokes frequently), walking, and other standard activities.
It is important that something the patient enjoys is selected; that is more important than the activity itself. I think asking a person to swim when they hate it is pointless - yet it happens.


Nari

bernard
20-09-2004, 07:53 AM
Nari,

Thanks to enhance the skills of our readers.

Emad,

Just another excellent idea! I will begin to picture the try it section as soon as possible!

nari
20-09-2004, 09:02 AM
Many of the ideas and movements come from David and Lorimer Moseley.

They illustrate the style of movement required - big picture stuff - and the concept of exercise (repetitive, painful, boring) is removed as far as possible away from the concept of functional movement that can actually be enjoyable.

Along with these is the reassurance that if pain occurs during the movements, it is OK, doesn't matter, cannot hurt, etc...



Nari

nari
28-09-2004, 01:20 PM
Note: as with any exciting innovative or compelling technique- watch out for central vision syndrome...!

I was caught out today with my lovely Greek fellow who has been in a nightmare of persistent pain for 20 years -four decompressions of the trigeminal nerve, LBP, bilateral shoulder pain, etc, etc, (R)ulnar nerve transposition x 2, all resulting in global pain, secondary hyperalgesia and severe allodynia of the (R)elbow.

His (R)elbow improves, the allodynia goes away, but gross swelling remains, along with disabling night pain. Wisely, his neurosurgeon orders an XR.
Almost complete obliteration of joint space, loose bodies (about three) and loss of normal outline.
So I take a side road, put on an orthopaedic hat (which I hate) and aim to attend the periphery, as well as central......and he will get a referral to Ortho from the neurosurgeon.

Easy to stay on the well travelled road!!

Nari

bernard
29-09-2004, 08:32 AM
I wanted to take some pictures to show the scene. My model forgot to bring the appropriate clothes (too sexy for the board). :wink: :oops:
Try again next week.

nari
29-09-2004, 09:00 AM
bernard....tell us more. Sounds fascinating.


nari

bernard
29-09-2004, 09:40 AM
The wonderbra wouldn't help to focus on the right movement just on the girl. :oops:

She is a circus student and I will help her with some advices in exchange of pictures.

nari
29-09-2004, 10:02 AM
Ahh, Bernard, I see.

Sir Isaac Newton would sympathise.


Nari

bernard
29-09-2004, 02:32 PM
And many Somasimplers, I guess? :wink:

bernard
06-10-2004, 09:05 AM
PNF, a picture using a diagonal

http://www.somasimple.com/images/neurodyn02.jpg

bernard
06-10-2004, 09:06 AM
PNF, a picture using a diagonal 2/3

http://www.somasimple.com/images/neurodyn03.jpg

bernard
06-10-2004, 09:06 AM
PNF, a picture using a diagonal 3/3

http://www.somasimple.com/images/neurodyn04.jpg