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christophb
07-05-2007, 02:39 AM
Thought this (http://biomapping.net/) was interesting, not sure how useful, but interesting. It's a project looking at GSR in relation to GPS monitor coordinates as people move about cities.

Interrogating the Individual
In Western society, individuals are continuously monitored by technical systems, everything from CCTV cameras that follow our movements to the microscopic level of magnetic resonance scans that record our responses to a variety of stimuli.

These apparently unconnected technical systems are all part of an attempt to interpret and manage the minute functions of human beings.

What effect does this kind of continuous ambient monitoring have on how we imagine ourselves and others around us?

In the shadow of this type of top down interrogation of the individual the Bio mapping project suggests a different type of body politic.

The central notion of Bio Mapping is that we can make better sense of our own body data than a disinterested observer.

By recording our own body's bio data along with our geographic location we can review the information and make meaningful decisions about our life.

Furthermore those close to us both physically and socially may have a certain interest in how we interpret our environment.

By allowing people to make active choices about how to share this intimate yet ambiguous data we not only create radically new social relations but we also change our own perception of ourselves from being at the mercy of these nearly invisible technical systems to becoming their master.

This process in turn suggests a whole range of new technologies that invert the control paradigm of biometric technologies.

Jon Newman
07-05-2007, 02:54 AM
Hi Chris,

I just learned about a device that can monitor whether someone is standing, sitting or supine and collects data every 1/8th second and the electronic data collection devices (PDA size devices) being used to collect pain related symptoms are expected to be able to store data in the "terabyte" range in the near future.

I'm not sure what all that means but I think these are examples of new technology that PTs will be dealing with beyond that which is necessitated by third party payers.

christophb
07-05-2007, 05:05 AM
Wow... I'm not really sure what to think about that.

Jon Newman
07-05-2007, 05:57 AM
I'm a bit concerned with direct marketing to consumers prior to knowing whether this type of information is useful. I won't be surprised if a patient comes to their MD with pain data collected 12 times a day for the last 3 months and says "here" when asked about their pain. It sounds wonderful but like yourself, I'm not really sure what to think about it. I suppose it will depend on what type of information is being collected. Here's an example of an online diary. (http://www.reliefinsite.com/)

Line M
07-05-2007, 07:19 PM
Chris,
It does seem a usefull tool, a sort of continual biofeedback, but I think one measures just arousal, you can't differentiate between negative or positive arousal this way.
Jon,
The pain diairy seems a useful electronic tool collecting pain data.. first person data.. but my concern is what does one exactly measure.. one has to also note the activity of what one is doing, a position one is taking. But always measuring with a certain goal. Do people really want to do this voluntarily?

Jon Newman
07-05-2007, 07:31 PM
Hi Line

According to a presentation of the Pain Measurement SIG at the APS conference the answer is "no". Not most anyway. Rates of compliance were cited at 50% or less.

The other monitors (GPS and the position detection device) have an advantage in that they don't require any effort on the patient's behalf beyond their willingness to wear such a device. They seem to be similar to 24 hour home EEG and EKG monitoring.

I wonder if it would be possible to monitor beta waves, etc. over a 24 hour period as well as simultaneously collecting pain diary information to see how that may relate a pain report/behavior.

Line M
07-05-2007, 07:43 PM
Jon,
Thank you for clearing the point of voluntary pain measurement.
I would be very interested to know outcome from recording brainwaves in combination with the other data. Must be possible already with portable devices. someone is probably working on this already?

Jon Newman
07-05-2007, 08:07 PM
Hi Line,

Must be possible already with portable devices. someone is probably working on this already?

I don't know. I always figure if I thought of something, surely someone else already has, so probably.

If anyone has any abstracts or papers related to this please post them.

christophb
07-05-2007, 09:31 PM
The one I have heard of (for ambulatory EEG) is for seizure monitoring. I'm not sure if it used for anything else.

Chris