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christophb
02-05-2007, 09:11 PM
This is from the same Guy Claxton article (http://www.guyclaxton.com/documents/New/CJE%20article.pdf)I posted, but seemed to need its own thread. Again, thanks to Ian





Eugene Gendlin is a philosopher and researcher with a longstanding interest in
psychotherapy. During the 1960s, he led a large research team at the University of
Chicago trying to pinpoint what was happening in successful therapy sessions. It
turned out that the ‘magic ingredient’ that predicted whether clients would make
positive progress was not the therapist’s ‘school’, not their technique, not even their
personality, but something to do with the client’s spontaneous way of talking and
thinking. If they spoke with clarity and certainty about their problems, they were
likely to stay stuck. But if their talk was punctuated with pauses and hesitations, as if
they were groping for just the right fresh words to capture what they wanted to say,
then they were much more likely to be making progress. The second thing that
Gendlin’s team discovered was that those clients who did not yet have the knack of
this gentle, tentative, exploratory way of thinking and talking, could be taught it.
And if they were, their satisfaction with their sessions increased and their therapeutic
progress speeded up (Gendlin, 1978, 1996).


The key to focusing
was learning a new way of attending to yourself. You ask yourself a very general
question such as ‘What is this whole thing (whatever it is) about?’, and then, instead
of giving yourself the usual quick answer, you direct your attention to your body,
especially to the throat, torso and stomach area, and become patiently receptive to
any small stirrings or promptings that occur there in response to the query. You are
on the look-out for the kinds of ‘embodied knowing’ that occur, for example, when
you feel out of sorts with a friend, but cannot quite put your finger on what is wrong,
or when you leave a meeting with a vague, visceral sense of dissatisfaction that you
cannot, for the moment, explain.
Such pre-conceptual promptings Gendlin refers to as a ‘felt sense’.


This seems like the question “how do you want to move?” asked by oneself prior to performing ideomotion

Recent work in neuroscience and immunology, for
example, has revealed how intricately and instantaneously ‘brain’ and ‘body’ affect
each other (through a host of neuronal and neurochemical means): so much so that
they are better seen as a single, integrated cognitive system. Changes in this system
are quite capable of manifesting as physical sensations, despite the fact that there is
no explicit, articulated corollary in consciousness.

*There is that pesky neuroscience work again and somebody who apparently doesn’t understand it

Chris

Barrett Dorko
04-05-2007, 02:52 PM
Chris,

I read Gendlin's book in the early 90s and wrote about his insights somewhere though I can't tell you where. I know that Gil Haight in Green Bay is also aware of him.

I think your connecting his description of searching for the right word somewhere in the center of the torso and what we typically catalyze with Simple Contact is close to perfect. Perhaps this "felt sense" is precisely what a culture that wants our bodies to pose and posture there specifically opposes.

I've more to say. This thread should catch fire.

Diane
04-05-2007, 03:33 PM
Anyone remember the insula (http://www.somasimple.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3551)?

Barrett Dorko
04-05-2007, 03:46 PM
“Catalyst” as opposed to “facilitator” is the word I use to describe myself these days, and I’m pretty sure I got it from Diane somehow. Anyway, I’ll have to dig out my copy of Gendlin’s Focusing ( http://www.amazon.com/Focusing-Eugene-T-Gendlin/dp/0553278339/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-9374717-8174203?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178281696&sr=1-1) but in the meantime perhaps you could tell us how he suggests the therapist should behave in order to “catalyze” this “felt sense.” I assume that within the world of psychology that actual touching the client isn’t encouraged. Of course, we are expected to touch others. The question remains, “How?”

My answer many years ago was Simple Contact. More and more this maneuver, method, technique, way of thinking or concept driven by “doing nothing” – whatever you want to call it – appears to be far more important to the patient and convergent with our current understanding of pain neuroscience than its simplicity might suggest.

christophb
04-05-2007, 04:46 PM
Barrett,

I first heard of focusing shortly after the Nanaimo experience from a patient who did some of the work in Chicago during the 70's. When she was practicing ideomotion she remarked that it was very similar to focusing. Ignorant as I was, thought she was jabbering about some new agey type of thing (not uncommon at the clinic I worked at) and passed it off. I kept happening across the word and the final straw to my curiosity was picking it out from my friend’s book shelf and re-seeing it in the Claxton article a few weeks ago. (Diane had previously made the same observations in an earlier thread). I've yet to read the book... I have a large "to do" stack.

Right now I have to embark on a biomechanical voyage (2 - 3 day weekends of a manual therapy course required by work). Let’s just say your son's Cinco de Mayo party will be a welcome break.

Chris

bernard
04-05-2007, 04:51 PM
I read Gendlin's book in the early 90s and wrote about his insights somewhere though I can't tell you where.

Perhaps here => the felt sense? (http://www.somasimple.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1502&highlight=Gendlin)

Barrett Dorko
05-05-2007, 03:16 AM
Bernard,

Thank you for finding this old thread. It's full of wonderful posts by participants still with us and some thankfully gone.

Chris,

Yes, I've heard of the preparations for my son's party. (Chris and his wife live near my son and his wife, Melissa, and have met them on several occasions) Have a great time and consider taking a picture that we'd be glad to post here some place.

I understand that there will be a lot of Lieutenants there.