ideas for neurodynamics affecting sympathetic trunk

[Tracy]

I'm looking for your best ideas for neurodynamic treatments related to mobilizing the sympathetic trunk/thoracic region. I'm trying a few things from the NOI course - mobilisation of the nervous system - and will use some simple contact, but would like some other ideas - Thanks in advance

Tracy

[emad]

Hi Tracy:

I have to search for its Anatomy ,course first .But seems good idea .

Emad

[emad]

Tracy :

Personally,I am interested in your idea and your suggestaions .Of course after the thread goes on with ideas and knowkedge ,there will be more sharings:angel: .I have found the link to anatomy , i would attacvh some of images and anatomy to help us .

You can raise your ideas ,or if i am track-out ,let you clear the issue .

Copied some knowledge below :
The sympathetic nervous system (Fig. 838) innervates all the smooth muscles and the various glands of the body, and the striated muscle of the heart. The efferent sympathetic fibers which leave the central nervous system in connection with certain of the cranial and spinal nerves all end in sympathetic ganglia and are known as preganglionic fibers. From these ganglia postganglionic fibers arise and conduct impulses to the different organs. In addition, afferent or sensory fibers connect many of these structures with the central nervous system.

The peripheral portion of the sympathetic nervous system is characterized by the presence of numerous ganglia and complicated plexuses. These ganglia are connected with the central nervous system by three groups of sympathetic efferent or preganglionic fibers, i. e., the cranial, the thoracolumbar, and the sacral. These outflows of sympathetic fibers are separated by intervals where no connections exist.

Cheers
Emad

[Diane]

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Tracy, this form of neural gliding (performing/combining head slides side to side, horizontal ribcage circles, and pelvis rotations around the other way or moving it in figures of eight) seems to be good for T spines, L spines, C spines, autonomics, ab strength, spinal cords, intercostal nerves, heart rate, respiration, rib excursion... at least in the body I currently occupy. (That is not a picture of me by the way, just one I found with google image. Regular loose unsequined clothing seems to work equally well.. :D. Also, appreciative crowds are not a requisite.)

[Luke Rickards]

Tracy,

Try slump long sitting with the arms resting in the patients lap, flexed only as far as gravity will take the body. For the lower Tx, greater angulation of the hips at the pelvis. For the upper Tx, leaning back more so the angle is less. Either acitive or passive, very slowly bring the ear straight to the shoulder (pure sidebending) and the shoulder sidebending toward the hip until a slight tension is felt. Hold for NO MORE than about 2-3 seconds, then back to neutral.

You can use the forearm to control the head movement and drop the shoulder by hooking it on your chest (bring the patient towards you). This frees the other hand to gently release the dorsal rami by gliding the Tx skin laterally, or to mobilise the rib heads.

Diane's suggestion is just as good.

Luke

[emad]

Tracy :

For me breathing ex and rotations of thorcic accompanied with limb motions are SNS mobilization .

Emad

[Tracy]

Diane -
Thanks for the ideas. And thank goodness the sequined clothing is not required, as I think it may be hard to get my male patients on board with this treatment!! Nice visual though!

Luke -
Thanks - the technique you describe is similar to the one I learned in one of the NOI courses, and am currently using.

Sounds like with some deep breathing and rotational/sidebending thoracic/cervical movements, I will be able to affect the sympathetic chain in this area.

I am not currently working with any RSD patients, but has anyone used these techniques with RSD, and if so, what has been your experience with affecting symptoms?

[nari]

Tracy,

It's hard to beat Butler's vast selection of neurodynamic movements that he suggested at the SNS course I did; all of them general movements and very akin to dancing as in Middle/Near East-type of dancing. Most patients, with the exception of many Caucasian males who find them weird, enjoy them. I have been using them for about 4 years and also make up my own.
Simple Contact would also be helpful - perhaps try it first.

Nari

[emad]

Hi Nari ;

Well , it all depends on the dancing wave /way/manner , dancing in aggressive way does not serve the Sympathetic or the whole nervous system at all , just my view .In fact , in middle East dancing is different from culture to another and from country to another . I see on TV many many different cultural dances in Africa and Aisa.

Emad