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Diane
29-05-2006, 06:10 PM
I've become uplifted lately by something called "popping", a dance form that looks liquidy, fluid, entrancing, where the body goes different directions at the same time, limbs look like they're bending backwards. This is done by performers to music, and is undoubtably practiced into choreographic and reproducible units that others can imitate and eventually perform, like a set of tricks.. but there is something wonderful in it that even I can see, when it's done by someone from the inside out (creatively) rather than from outside in (by mimicry through mirror neurons). I'm not saying that popping IS ideomotor dance, what I'm saying is that if you want to be able to learn the difference between ideomotor movement and copied, mimicked movement, popping is a great example that will separate wheat from chaff better than any other kind of dance I've ever watched.

I could not remove my eyes from the TV while watching a contestant in the "So you think you can dance" reality show (on again now that American Idol is finally finished...). When the camera went back onto the three judges, used to seeing dancers that "look" not bad, but aren't really great either, their jaws were hanging open, as mine was, so I figured my fascination was genuinely stimulated. The guy went to the "next round" after several flattering comments.

I looked for a video clip that demo-ed "popping", and all I could find for the time being was this one from Finland (of all places). A lot of the dancing here is derivative and slightly boring (not that I'd ever be able to accomplish one zillionth of it of course.. ) but about three-quarters of the way through is a small segment just a few seconds long, of a guy wearing a blue baggy shirt, dancing alone and spotlit. He's not bad. You'll be able to get the gist of it seeing him. (He comes on right after a group dance with a woman in the center who is wearing red pants.)
Video clip (http://www.taukojalka.com/datas/video/www.dance.fi.mov).

christophb
30-05-2006, 05:14 AM
I think you have to search under Break dancing or "poppin' and lockin'"
A search under "breakin' and poppin'" yielded this, I think you can find a bunch such clips:


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/82138/freestyle_dancing/

One advantage of youth on a forum such as this:teeth:

Chris

Diane
30-05-2006, 05:27 AM
Dang.. my Imac can't make the thing run. :(
Too bad.. I like watching these guys.

bernard
30-05-2006, 07:44 AM
Diane,

It doesn't work on Apple. Only PC.

stregapez
30-05-2006, 08:09 AM
Nice video clip.

I dance around the house. 'Til very recently I danced in clubs, mostly goth nights (quite creatively, not to mention both flowy, trancey and stompy) 'til I got bored with them, and /or the crowd.

Think I am incapable of copying other people's movements.

Dana

nari
30-05-2006, 08:16 AM
Couldn't see Diane's video clip - just a blank page after loading, but had a look at Chris's. Such energy......!

Nari

Luke Rickards
30-05-2006, 12:08 PM
Diane,

If you liked that, check this out.


Luke

bernard
30-05-2006, 12:54 PM
Couldn't see Diane's video clip - just a blank page after loading

You must have QuickTime (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html) installed on your computer.

nari
30-05-2006, 01:17 PM
I do have it.

Nari

bernard
30-05-2006, 01:41 PM
These aussies computers work in a strange manner. :D

bernard
30-05-2006, 01:49 PM
But I wasn't able to read/see the Luke's one. :confused:
Found! Download/save the file on the computer and then read in the player.

It seems not possible to read directly a movie that is an attachment.

nari
30-05-2006, 02:08 PM
Thanks Bernard - it is weird, because others send me videos frequently from within Aust and there is no problem with their being attachments...

What's with you Northerners?? ;)

Nari

bernard
30-05-2006, 02:11 PM
Nari,

You can record the file and then see it. I tried the Diane's one and it worked fine for me. Perhaps a browser problem or a cache memory one?

Our server doesn't allow live movie streaming. I'm sorry.

nari
30-05-2006, 10:59 PM
Ah, so that explains it. Don't worry, Bernard - it doesn't worry me in the least.

Nari

Sarah
01-06-2006, 01:56 AM
Diane,
"So you think you can dance" is my all-time favorite show on TV. I've been looking forward to it all year. Last year's finalist Jamal was a "pop and lock" dancer and he showed great versatility, learning everything from ballroom to lyrical. This season, I missed most of the first show and didn't see the dancer you are talking about because my cable went out last Thursday. I think the judges are much more interesting to listen to than Randy or Paula.
Watching the videos reminds me of my "crazy" dancing days, when my nicknames were "spaghetti legs" and "hip shaker". No wonder I have a labral tear in my hip! The thing that struck me the most, was how flexible those kids are. Ahh, to be a limbo contest winner again.....those were the days!
Sarah

Diane
01-06-2006, 05:07 AM
Sarah, no worries, I'm sure the guy will be around for many many episodes. You will definitely get to see him move. He's able to move in ways no human should be able to. I saw Jamile from last year.. this guy is way more interesting. You'll see.. :)
Spaghetti legs eh? :D

I can't see any of the videos except the one I put in, BTW...:(