The last theory for relieve pain

[emad]

HI Bernard ;

I think i have visited your website "algoless" , which has many pictures , cam make the issue clear to us .


cheers
Emad

[bernard]

The first thing that is important is the complexity of a pain state or process. It is composed (often) by an initial peripheral state, called a peripheral pattern, associated with emotions, endocrinal responses and memory events.

[bernard]

In most of injuries, motion is involved.
Some exceptions exist but are rare!

If we are not moving there is few risks that something dangerous may arrive!
Take a moment to think about this!

Often, we are involuntary actors of the scene but we are moving in it?

[bernard]

Normally evolution gave us appropriate defenses against dangers.
Nature looked at the exact proprieties of these dangers and we are equipped with appropriate means to react correctly.

We can affirm that the biological equipment is perfectly structured to reply to these natural dangers.

[emad]

Hi Bernard ;

the issue is complex something for me , but it is not my first idea about using neuromatrix to treat pain ,but now the new idea for me is that there is priority, and we can disurb the brain form experenceing pain.

This is the article which i have read before ,from manual therapy journal;

A pain neuromatrix approach to patients with chronic pain, Pages 130-140
G. L. Moseley
and the link is ;

: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/1356689X

The idea of disturbing the brain while putting gradual inputs, while avoiding to make the brain feel that thers is danger ,like for example ;

a patient with low back pain after walking for 5 minutes , so let the input walking e.g. for 6 minutes while chat/speak/discuss with his friend.


emad

[bernard]

Natural dangerous events

Human being is moving=> we are going to the danger
1/ chemical (i.e. gas) => slow => reaction = stop then escape = motion
2/ heat (forest in fire) => slow (to fast) => reaction = stop then escape = motion
3/ cold (snow, wind) => slow => reaction = escape = motion
4/ impact (fall of a stone, animal..) => fast = reaction = escape/fight = motion
5/ ?

[emad]

Hi Bernard:

Here you are ;
Volume 8, Issue 3, Pages 129-192 (August 2003)

if i write the whole link , it is very long , i hope you can reach it easly , it is the manual therapy journal on science direct

Bye
emad

[bernard]

:idea: Emad,

I cannot access to the full text. But I had already read something on this subject. It is quite right but really perfectible.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S1356-689X(03)00051-1

Here, the solution is simpler!

[emad]

Hi Bernard:

Ok i see what do you mean through thus discussion , however thus was so long i tried to read all as possible .

Attention , awarness , feeling , and making the patient control all the process using all his abilities of input as vision , hearing ....

yes , thus may be effective .

Let us put the patient aside , i think we can only practise somatic education if only we can practise,expereince , feel ,apply those ideas to our seleves as therpists ,then we can creat the (student/patient) person to be slef-healing , self-treatment .ok.


Me for example , i set a lot of time in my clinic, so i suffer hamstrings tightness /shorting as i set long times. also i feel my posture is not good ,coorect as i read more about somatic education .

when i read areticles about somatic education i correct myself , then days pass and i return to my past habits of sitting .
but i think my attention has improved.
then the issue of feeling ,attention ,listening to one s feel, ovement ,sometime i feel it is diffuclt to apply to simple people , it is an issue of culture to creat more attentive consumer , thus needs interpersonal skills , time to speak , explain to the patient .

cheers
emad

[bernard]

Emad,

Of course, this theory is effective and some techniques use it already since a long time. I must add, too, there is no panacea and we have not to forget our clinical reasoning by the way.

Educate patients is necessary but the lessons have to be understood and felt in their bodies. Some changes in our lifestyle is needed too.

[emad]

Bernard:

:!: :?:

cheers
emad

[emad]

Hi Bernard:

Good prioritsation of our objectives and procedures .
yes , awarness ,feel, movement are important , but i think we do not gave the manner /mode /tone of our techniques its importance .

here i mean gentle/simple/gradual /smooth/fine application .

Bernard , this is very important , even if we do not consider , or applying aggressively , and to some extent our hand skill and feel ,the outcome will NOT be satisfactory.

cheers
emad :lol: