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rolf
25-04-2004, 07:44 PM
Hi somasimpler!

As therapists i am trying to understand my pain patients through
holistic approach.
How is it possible to reach an optimal heath condition(with a minimum of pain)?

1.through your way of thinking possitive(You become what you think!)
2.through daily physical activities(motion is lotion on body and emotion!)
3.through nourishing food(you become what you eat!)
4.....
etc...

The last years i have beeen interested in the connection between ,mental and physical state of mind and nutrition.
As an example,when we are under severe stress(physicly or mentaly) you
will loose aspessialy b-vitamins and magnesium .
Vit B reduction has a strong influence on our mental state of mind and is able to give depression.
Magnesium is on of the first minerals thats lost during stress,which can lead to easier worring,and the treshold for anger can also be redused.

Should we as physiotherapists/manuelltherapist be conserned about what
our patients are eating?I think so but what about you?
RIN :wink: :wink: :wink:

Green Hornet
27-04-2004, 06:00 AM
Just breifly,
Rin and Bernard,
Nutrition has been a big part of my practice. I think that we absolutely need to educate patients on nutrition. Nutrition for healing and wellness.

In relation to stress respose in high stress society, adrenal exhaustion is an issue. We overuse adrenal gland in response to stress. For that, vitamin C supplement is critical.
But, we often pick up a single nutrient, saying that it is important. Nutrition needs to be balanced. and in order for our body to absorb whatever the nutrients we supplement, we need to have plenty of trace minerals. Without the trace minerals (ionic form is the best), the body does not absorb Vitamin B, C, potassium, magnesium, or whatever.

nari
27-04-2004, 06:07 AM
Bernard and Diane-

I'm curious; what is it about the upper side of the belly that reveals stress?

Nari

Diane
27-04-2004, 06:15 AM
Not sure exactly what Bernard is referring to Nari...perhaps stress=weight gain? (Cortisol?) GERD?
Diane

BB
27-04-2004, 07:57 AM
the green hornet returns! Hi Takao.

I think one important thing about good nutrition, apart from the actual nutrition, is the fact that is feeds into the whole idea of healthy lifestyle. This makes application of other healthy choices more likely. A person concerned with healthy eating will likely also be concerned with healthy activity.

Cory

nari
27-04-2004, 10:34 AM
I must say, Bernard, I have not noticed the tense belly syndrome. but do not do much with bellies except to train controlled breathing.

Nutrition is probably very important, but I do not take too much notice of it either, for I feel it is not our field. I guess that is partly because I have no weight problem, still have a well defined waist at 60, and eat whatever I like, except for a few strong dislikes. So to me it is not important, as I consider my intake is pretty well balanced across the spectrum.
I find it annoying that the food gurus keep changing their minds re food:
protein/carbs balance in particular. Now carbs are out and protein is in, again, for the umpteenth time in 50 years. I gave up on nutrition a few years ago because of the hypeand confusion.
So I do not advise patients on nutrition - I refer the diabetic overweights and elderly underweights to our nutritionist.


Nari :roll:

Green Hornet
29-04-2004, 08:40 PM
RE: Nutrition and diet.
It is true that there are a lot of different thoughts among experts. So, it requires that we have to study and pick up what is credible. That is what I do on nutrition.
If you can refer people to reliable nutritionist, you could say that it is not our field. But I don't have ones and even nutritionists don't know about nutrition related to healing and nutritional problems behind some musculoskeletal symptoms. I see education on nutrition can be one of our tools - a very powerful tool to help our patients.