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Green Hornet
08-03-2004, 06:13 PM
I feel more and more that "real" parasites are not in the symptomatic site our clients complain about.
I used to battle with narrow-minded approach (zoom-in approach by Servaas) and did not get outcomes I desired. first I get information I need about the symptom and condition of the site, then my main interest resides in what the rest of the body is doing to the area, how the rest of the body is interacting or not interacting with the area.
"Anatomy Trains" Myogfascial meridian -- this concept helped me how the body is interconnected by connective tissue as a whole. This helps me see outside the symptom area more clearly.
"Chain Reaction" by Gary Gray has helped me understand proper loading and exploding movement patterns and detect movement interaction throughout the body.
Bernard, I think that we are getting closer to the real, but I feel that I will never know how close we are. I can't wait for the day when we say that "How simple we are!"
Green Hornet
08-03-2004, 07:27 PM
Bernard,
I have been studying Gary Gray's so-called "Chain Reaction." He uses tweakology, in which he assesses movement by exaggerating or limiting a certain plane of motion to see how that tweak affects the rest of the movements. That may help us see parasite more clearly and at least has helped me see it better than I used to.
He and I agrees that normal movement is sometimes too fast and has too many things going on at the same time, so it is difficult for us to see what we want to see.
Hi Bernard & Takao;
I have to say all those knowledge are new for me , but after i read sometimes i feel those knowledge have base in physiotherapy literature , but you are using different terminologies.
What i have understood ,There is painful certain movement , even without that movement performing ,and painful movement with a background in different site .
Am i on the right track?
Please , example could be so clear to help !
thanks emad
Green Hornet
09-03-2004, 04:44 AM
Emad,
The term "Tweakology" is a made-up word by Gary Gray, if there is no definition for the word in a dictionary. He is a well-known PT in the USA.
One example of tweak in the gait: Have a client walk with bid stride -- What could we see if something is not right? We may see lack of his extension, too early heel-off, and asymmetrical trunk rotation exaggerated, although we could miss those in gait observation without a tweak.
You could use the following tweaks in gait exam:
* Wide stance walk to control frontal plane motion.
* Toe-in or toe-out gait.
* Cross-over gait -- moveing forward as stepping across the supporting leg -- to exaggerate transverse plane motion.
By tweaking some of the movement components, some dysfunction and sometimes pain can become more obvious. Have fun playing with tweaking people's motions. It is actually fun and could make clients look goofy and make them smile.
His exam is on all functional-movement base. After he observes something wrong, he may perform a controlled-exam on the treatment table.
I hope this will help you.
Bernard:
I suggest this forum will be excellent if there are two tings;
glossary
abbreviations
I think there was a topic in NOI ,how every member hope see on NOI forum , most of members hoped to see abbreviations category , because thus sometimes lead to miss understaning, but soory i failed to reach now that link.
Examples ;
Glossary
Tweak , which "Takao' have used i searched for in the dictionary.
another word usually used in somatics , which until now i am not sure if i know the right ,accurate meaning that word is "Zoom in & Zoom out "
If thus considered thus will be excellent , particularly , somatics literature is new for us , and sure there will be sudents regidtered , who will find difficulties , i think so ,i hope iam right.
Yes ,Takao i understand /see what do you mean , e, g, walking on toes , walking on heels , sometimes i use to detect weakness of dorsi .
emad
bernard
09-03-2004, 12:55 PM
You're absolutely right!
I asked David to put an abbreviation page but it seems that time has gone to realize the job.
I'll put a new forum sorted by letters A,B....
Green Hornet
10-03-2004, 12:44 AM
Emad,
"Tweak" = To manipulate motions in a certain way by exaggerating and/or limiting a movement component. To direct into a specific plane of motion.
"Zoom-in" = To focus on a symptomatic area.
"Zoom-out" = To see the body as a whole. To see the rest of the body and its relationship with the symptomatic area.
I think that I am right.
Takao:
Thank you very much .
It is now so clear .
cheers
emad
Bernard & Takao:
Sorry for disturbing the main issue of the post , which is in the the words of "takao"
feel more and more that "real" parasites are not in the
symptomatic site our clients complain about.
I think the whole issue needs very accurate ,strict clincal reasoning process and holistic approach to detect /ascertain the main background behind the parasite movement .Taking the issue as a whole if we look in the somatic areas in the body ,e,g, if the problem is the joint flextion ,we have to take related small joints in cosideration,muscles,neves,ligaments.arteries.......
of course beside to the paitent meanung of his problems.
Thus on the somatic level (exclude here the brain)
But , if the issue we consider is original from the neuromatrix (as the phantom limbs ,however are not existed ,there is pain)
we due to deal with the brain in a gradual manner.
cheers
emad
Hi My friends Bernard & takao:
Sorry for disturbing the discussion , i try greatly as possible to move it back to its track/line!!!
Trying to ascertain the main background of the patoent complaint accurately ?
It seems that the Parasite needs more effort of us to detect !
Please "Bernard ", could you include the word parasite in our glossary >
Thank you very much for inculding those words in the glossary .
Cheers
emad
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